There was another post about goat banning every m@te they saw. They're kinda salty about being featured on yptb.
Very salty we called out their love of fascists on their community, and swears db0 is the evil group for proving it.
Apparently just being from db0 is now against the rules at MoG? TankieJerk thinks you're a fascist now too. I don't always agree with what you say but you're far from being a fascist. Huge yikes from the mods of both communities.
Thank you, I appreciate that fact at least. I don't expect everyone to always agree with me, not even my best friends and family. I am a deeply flawed human, I'll be the first to tell anyone that.
But its just odd that we're both fascists and tankies and anything else because we wanted Harris to win by calling out Trump, saying she'll stop funding Israel, promote popular polices, etc.
Or we're fascists for saying China is not a holy state. Or that murder is bad no matter which side does it.
The reasons why we're fascist-tankies is new each time.
When I first read there, I was also deeply offended. I now see how liberal ideas are deeply rooted in fascist thinking and now liberals are quicker to allow fascist ideology than try to get a different perspective. It's not our fault we've been abused, but healing that is our responsibility.
ytpb is a fedi gem, an original content form... a place where mod misconduct can be documented on case by case basis and longitudinally. jordan lunds of reddit never face such accountability on reddit. modlog is the reason why fedi gonna win long term.
the drama is just a cherry!
The drama may be entertaining but it doesn't bring out the best in anyone. I get it, though, I've been there. I'm trying to raise my browline just a little.
100%
it is a entertaining but that's the slippery slope like anything else that's "fun":
to quote josh johnson: art can save your life, entertainment WILL kill you
Goat is a trash mod and really should be blocked by everybody so they can exist in their own lemmy echo chamber that they desire.
I mean the genocide denial and apologia wasn't enough?
And then he said db0 was infested with tankies because we said that the UN and Amnesty International don't call the Uyghur people being mistreated a genocide. We used the official terms used by official agencies, and that meant we deny genocide.
When we agreed the Uyghurs were being mismanaged, but it wasn't genocide because has serious implications and must be called as such when it happens (See: Palestinian, Armenian, Ukrainian), we're somehow denying it, when international organizations don't call it one.
I mean, the tankies aren't denying widespread famine or the mismanagement of Tienamin square, or reasonable criticism of Putin either. We do all have a hard time accepting even our own evidence that our own governments heavily propagandize us. Hearty disagreement may be healthy and productive, but plenty of listening and examining all available supporting and critical evidence, with plenty of time taken to consider and reconsider while asking thoughtful questions, perhaps before asking them would do us all good.
I mean many of them do?
I've never seen a single one who does
you are literally one of them
Are ok, so you're just ignoring what people actually believe and assigning made up positions to them that make it easier for you to hate them.
And many libs are fascist ideology apologists. Dialogue like I mentioned elsewhere itt seems to be a cure no one is willing to take, because the psychological ivermectin is more palatable.
Gotta love Lemmy drama
I’ve posted on there before but that’s just dumb and petty. Guess I’ll unsub
That whole sub always seemed dumb and petty tbh
I feel like it matters less now that piefed’s a thing. Before that I think it was good for there to be a place where people could see what the devs of the platform they use believe. Now there’s an alternative
Libs gonna lib. Not comrades but crypto-fash. The lib version of "anti-communist action". Literally why we have fascism.
Well meanwhileongrad was fun while it lasted I guess lol. Tell me you're a much bigger PTB than even the accusations you got on YPTB, without telling me.
goat's done a couple of weird things that I have observed. I think the most notable was that they made PugJesus a mod, PJ said he didn't want to be a mod, they left him as a mod even with him repeatedly asking not to be, and then a little while later, they made a big public show of deciding he was a Zionist and announcing they were removing him as a mod. It always felt to me like there was more going on with that story.
Anyway yeah it sounds like he's a tool.
Yeah, totally weird how that all went down.
always felt to me like there was more going on with that story.
Spot check
Really now? Your response is to turn the other cheek to civilians being gunned down on mass throughout your country? Oh, silly harmless Hamas raping women to death, stealing international civilians and slaughtering them inside of their own homes--we won't do anything in response but give you a stern talking to
- by goat
Oh
Oh no
Well
what would they be able to do? i'm the idf. i can bomb hospitals. i have fucking nukes. let the world tweet away
- by goat
if i was the IDF and I wanted to kill civilians without any witnesses, I’d use my largest and most destructive bomb to really make sure no one captures it on film.
but that’s if I was evil.
Well this has taken a little bit of a turn
Okay so yeah goat's a tool to put it a little bit fucking mildly
Yeah… goat painted db0 with a broad brush.
Lmao. What does he think we did to them?
Gotta love how the dude that posted that is all too happy to point out everything even close to tankie shit, but never makes a point of the fascist shit also apparent within those posts. Points for including both, but hey, the dude's bias is showing.
Edit: Nevermind, they deleted anything that didn't paint goat in a good light. Shocker.
He's literally been on Voat, the nazi reddit, and got banned there twice and kept staying on it.
He has literally been actively talking to members who use Nazi terminology, but then bans @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world for calling out Zionism as "Zio".
Goat is a heavy drinker at the nazi bar.
I was banned for reporting a someone who literally called for the ethnic cleansing of non-Jews in Palestine. And went on to clarify that they believed in exactly that.
Goat is not a drinker at the Nazi bar. He is the Nazi bar.
If you haven't, I'd say post that publicly on this com. It's not like it's gonna be a debate, but it will bring more of Goat's shit into public view.
I am a bit busy with some IRL stuff but will probably do so sooner or later. A post here requires a bit more effort than pasting a news article I come across and calling it a day.
MoG had the bones to be great but that opportunity got squandered with excessive shilling.
We get it goat... you got anti tankie vendetta... jfc
Recently someone posted one of the .ml admins saying the BBC was not neutral, and the entire community went "no that's accurate, they were told to not publish stories about Israel, have manufactured stories on Jeremy Corbyn, and constantly try to both sides transgender issues."
And I'm amazed goat didn't just ban everyone there in that moment for questioning an idol of the neoliberal brainrot.
There's a lot of .ml and hexbear users who moved to db0 because they wanted people to have to see their shit opinions again.
I don't have a judgment on this one, two petty mods fighting
So the vanguard is killing the anarchist community again? Tracks...
Which ones? We don't really like tankie members making accounts here. Part of the process of getting onto here is talking about anarchism.
I was mainly interested in communism as a means to work toward anarchy. But seeing the difference between the bulk of posts pushed me to the Triad, not because I've abandoned my dream as much as I've suspended it to learn more from more practical, less reactionary people with valuable insight and experience. Not that db0 doesn't have less reactionary voices, valuable insight and experience, just more that those voices are occulted from my view because the more frequent, loud reactionaries keep them from showing up on my feed. It's more productive and much less time consuming to just read and converse with active voices on the Triad. Plus the bulk of their time isn't spent grousing about people who hurt their feelings or looking to the past to hang onto it, but only for historical perspective and lessons that can be applied or adjusted to modern developments.
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
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