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JordanLund being JordanLund Again (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Zombie\@feddit.uk c 个32• 2 days ago Sir/Ma'am, this is a Wendy's international network. Taleya\@aussie.zone c 个7• 2 days ago Norah (pup/it/she) Banned from community P1 • 2 days ago I really like Saer as a gender neutral honorific, it's used in Baldur's Gate :) in jordanlund\@lemmy.world 1 1. 4 hours ago One of my favorite authors simply distilled it down to M. Mr? Mrs? Miss? Ms? M. Makes it super simple. Norah (pup/it/she) Banned from community \+ 2 • 0 3 hours ago Removed by mod ShaggySnacks\@lemmy.myserv.one c 1 1 • 14 hours ago I use Mi'they/them.

You could easily make the call that I deserve this ban. But after Jordan lied about a user the other day, calling them transphobic to try and get trans people (and others) on his side as a cis white man, I just did not have the patience for him to start talking @ me about anything related to gender.

Not only that, but his reply in itself was a bit of* a powertrip in my opinion. I reported the bottom comment as "seems a bit attack helicopter-y?" mainly because that user seemed to have a posting history that indicated being a bit of an outrage merchant. I didn't necessarily want the comment removed, more than anything I was hoping to ping @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to keep an eye on the user. It feels like his reply was a bit of "I've seen this, I don't care and I'm going to show you that I don't care by replying to you publicly without acknowledging your report privately".

I'm also pretty sure I upset his feefees with my comment the other day here on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and he jumped at the opportunity to ban me from somewhere. Yeah, I baited that reaction but come on, a permanent ban on a first offence? Yeah, alright mate.

I didn't even realise I was in a lemmy.world community, let alone one @jordanlund@lemmy.world moderates (god one of the other mods is PugJesus) or I pawbably wouldn't have participated. Going to have to go through all my lemmy.world comms now and unsubscribe I think. Can you imagine running a comm about the heinous nature of policing and then being so authoritarian?

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[-] C4RC0S4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

bannanaente is serinus and has given control of the lemmy.world admin bot to JordanLund last year

the two of them have forced out anyone from the mod team who stood up to them

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So.

As someone who knows more information about this, I feel like I should add this information before things go further.

Jordan has had access to that bot for nearly (if not more) 2 years. How do I know this? Because I had access to the same bot. Back in the day when I was very very active I had a dedicated stalker, DroneRights. They now go by the name DragonFucker or whatever. A lot of brand new accounts were being made just to harass me and all of them were pretty obviously alts of DroneRights. Like either self admitted or the same username but different instance. I used the bot as I was told and removed those accounts when it was made undeniable they were the same person. I did also use it once to remove CSAM that had been posted and reported but admins weren't around/awake. After 5ish minutes of no one responding to the callout in the Discord server, I used the bot myself to remove the CSAM. I feel every use of it was justified, at least by me.

Jordan?

I don't know why he was given access to the bot in the first place. Around that time in the server I do remember Jordan talking about being harassed and dealing with some personal stuff that the harassment was making more difficult. I didn't (and still largely don't) care about anything outside of my little meme areas so I wasn't really paying attention to anything Jordan said but I do remember seeing him use it and all of these memories are from a while ago. I haven't been in that server since like April. But I saw him use it for anything from CSAM to spam to harassment.

[-] C4RC0S4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

first using a.i tools to detect alts and now using discord bots to give admin privileges to anyone with the bot access

is .world too big for the mod team to handle?

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honestly, I'm just questioning why you're lying.

You said elsewhere that you got those screenshots months ago but that is a blatant lie.

I also just finished saying in a comment that I know about this situation and the users. So why you think I either wouldn't instantly refute your claim and call you a liar... I don't know.

That discord message was sent 4 days ago of this year.

Why are you lying?

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 weeks ago

Let's see if anything is done about https://lemmy.zip/post/48675001?scrollToComments=true

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

They haven't stopped him before, so why now?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Consider all of the other posts got acknowledged by lw higher ups I'm betting on just being ignored completely

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago

May I suggest you create your own competing community and moderate it the way you think it should be moderated? If you do well at it, and enough other people share your views on the moderation of the incumbent community, yours should win out in the end, no?

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 weeks ago

Network effect still plays, alternate privacy communities such as !privacy@programming.dev are still way less active than !privacy@lemmy.ml , despite the .ml admins regularly instance banning users https://lemmy.ml/modlog/14806

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, but doesn't that sword cut both ways? Presumably, people talk to each other about bad moderation experiences too. I mean, that's what we're currently doing right now.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 week ago

People knowing about moderation issues are in the minority. Most people keep using whatever community they subscribed to at one point in time.

You still have people posting to https://lemmy.world/c/moviesandtv@lemmy.film , Lemmy.film has been down for two years

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

That's crazy. I get not immediately blocking local posting when the remote is down, plenty of instances have issues with uptime. But it's wild that the software doesn't have some sort of timeout that causes the local to block posting unless or until a proof of life message from the remote. Should be a choice for the local too, I know Blahaj would pawbably set it shorter because of our intolerance for poor moderation of transphobia, whereas somewhere like lemmy.world would definitely want it longer.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 0 points 1 week ago

Fair point. The question on my mind is what can be done to change that. I freely admit that I don't have any immediate suggestions.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 week ago

This post is a good action : https://lemmy.zip/post/48675001?scrollToComments=true

Not sure if LW admins will follow up on this

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm good idea.

!acab@quokk.au

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Subscribed! Though it would be nice if that space ends up being more heavily focussed on Aussie policing, as !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world definitely has a heavily US focus.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't really think it's that easy. Firstly, I have a disability and don't have the energy to do so. Secondly, it's not just this comm. Jordan is prolific across dozens of communities. This was* also kind of always the excuse given on reddit about power tripping moderators and I just don't feel like it's that good-faith of an argument to make.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

First, you can hardly expect me to take into account any disability or energy levels of yours when making my suggestion when this is the first I've heard of either. It's not like I know you. Second, it doesn't have to be you. If this particular mod is this bad, surely there will be others who've experienced similar issues. Maybe you could reach out to them. This post would seem like a good place to do so.

With that said, I'm not trying to discourage people pointing out poor moderator behavior. Quite the contrary. I made this suggestion, because doing that on its own, well, it doesn't do much to actually solve the problem. Perhaps some people can be shamed into better behavior, but in my experience the worst of the lot behave badly precisely because they have no shame in the first place. Unless this somehow makes the mod in question resign from the position, it's effectively just venting.

Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but I personally prefer more tangible solutions.

I'm not here to tell you what you should or shouldn't do though. That's your business.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Regardless of my own disability, suggesting it is also assuming that any given person has the time, and it just feels like it's excusing bad behaviour. Reaching out to the mod in question would be fairly useless, he's prolific not just on Lemmy but right back from his career on Reddit too, hence the title of my post. However, I have pinged him, so let's see if he has anything constructive to contribute.

Implying that merely posting here won't help solve the pawblem at all is also kind of untrue in itself. I posted a couple weeks back about a very frivolous temp ban and that contributed to the ban being overturned and the mod in question seemingly being educated. Resignation/removal isn't the only way to resolve poor moderator behaviour. This space is one of the few that strives to create a culture of mod accountability.

In saying all that, I'd love to see a !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.dbzer0.com so if anyone here wants to create that then I'll be your first subscriber!

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The centrist position on policing in the US is to cave in to the police union every single time, and to embrace the militarisation of the police. That's happened under Democrats and Republicans alike.

While I respect the fact their union is effective at protecting it's members, the fact is that union is largely responsible for shielding police from any accountability for their criminal actions.

I agree some sort of ACAB community would go down well here, so thanks for the suggestion.

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 0 points 1 week ago

It's .world. Why do people still even go there?!

[-] FranklyIGiveADarn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

To throw peanuts at the circus.

[-] remon@ani.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

YDI.

He made a reasonable comment and you complete flew of the handle because of some shit that happened somewhere else.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

TBF, if you check the timestamps, it becomes pretty clear he was only alerted to my comment by my report on the other user's reply. That* was also frustrating, especially knowing that in the background he likely pulled it from the mod queue and Ada wouldn't be able to see it.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

So, sort of a BPBPR? Bait-Prokoved Bait-Provoked Reaction?

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I'd agree with that, even if it's a bit of a mouthful x3

[-] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

You should not be pushing people’s buttons.

[-] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Idk that kinda seems outside of the purview. If she wants to push his buttons, so what?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

Well mods will ban you but only if the button pushing doesn't fit their agenda.

That's called censorship. People need to find communities that are not modded by idiots.

[-] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Many communities ban you if you start namecalling and being rude. Being a buzzkill is so boring.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

They only ban you for this if they don't like substance of your content.

There are plenty of people being rude and name calling, but they don't get any censorship due to shilling approved points.

Jordan Lund drama is a good example of such behavior.

Rules for thee, not for me vibes

[-] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

Whelp you clearly are victimblaming in this isolated incident. Supporting drama farmers.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

Two wrongs don't make a right...

But there is also basic matra of FAFO

Jordan's toxic behaviour is finally caught up with him to where he shitted on so many people, that the community decided to reject him.

That's just basic social dynamics at work here.

Pretending that he is a victim is disingenuous. His conduct is well documented.

[-] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It matters very much. This is poor behaviour. What do you mean it’s outside of the purview when it’s the literal situation occurring. I don’t think Jordanlund should be insulted out of the blue when he did nothing wrong in this incident.

[-] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"pushing buttons" shouldn't result in any mod action. Sounds like thought policing to me.

Now, what OP did was a bit more than pushing buttons, but perm ban? One thing to get a warning or a week ban from it.

Don't really have an issue w/ OP telling a specific user they have issues with to fuck off.

Idc if lund was an issue "in this incident." context says they're kind of a douche overall.

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

You literally asked for it.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I can't deny that. Though I'd say that a more balanced and level-headed moderator wouldn't ban everyone that asks for it. It's the equivalent of cops pulling you up for giving them the finger or calling them a pig. Happened to a friend of mine here in Aus the other day actually, which was absolutely just an intimidation tactic since there's no such law banning that act.

[-] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

YDI. This is not a productive way to approach the situation.

Update: I just recently found out the ban was permanent. This should've only resulted in a comment removal.

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