Jordanlund removed a post in news@lemmy.world because I, not even the post author, disagreed with his view of how moderation should work.
For extra pettiness, he removed my comments before removing the whole post.
Well that's fun that it's now considered attacking when questioning mod decisions on world. Then again they've always been incredibly aggressive that way in their news comm when people don't go along with their odd decisions
Yeah, I'm amused jordanlund posted the modlog, as that does not make him look better. I raised the issue with another mod and they called my criticism "belligerent", which is a wild label to apply to those two comments. There was no response to moderating for "spite". Apparently he just couldn't help himself after such withering belligerence.
Stated rules of the group were met with hostility and that hostility was returned in kind.
Compare with the conversation I had with OP who very kindly fixed his post which is perfectly allowed as it now abides by the rules of the community.
https://lemmy.world/post/35636549/19280273
"Now I'm removing it just to spite you." is such a clear self-report of mens rea that it borders on satire. The question of whether or not there was a rule infraction to begin with is utterly moot after a statement like that.
Why even try to rationalize it now? Go ahead and label your actions as PTB in this thread. At this point, it's probably the most honest move you can make.
Stop being a moron Zaktor. OP fixed his post, it's allowed to stand now that it's a proper link as requested, same as the other links in Politics. All the mods are laughing at you.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2147054
and jordanlund once again fails the Don't Be A Piece Of Shit challenge
Respect is earned, not granted. If you come at me hot I will ruin you and not feel the LEAST bit bad about it. Don't like it?
Moderation is not a tool in your arsenal to out-escalate an interpersonal dispute. I always thought your actions were fairly reasonable in the past but this one is really not a good look. I would encourage you to take a break and reflect on this interaction.
Let me explain it like this... If you come at me with a shitty attitude, I have ZERO obligation to treat you with kindness and I absolutey will not. Again, don't like it, get fucked.
OTOH, many, many times people have PM'd me and said "Hey, I don't think this is right, can you look at it?" and I'll reverse it or politely explain why not.
For example, someone had a comment removed for "inciting domestic violence". It was an example of a loaded question, the whole "when did you stop beating your wife?" thing. So I restored it and went to the mod and explained "no, no, that's not an actual call for domestic abuse, it's literally an example of a dishonest question" with the supporting link.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
I think the mod in question just wasn't familiar with the colloquialism, eh, it happens.
In the case of Zaktor calling our community rules "bullshit", yeah, fuck that guy.
What you don't seem to understand is that responding to negativity with negativity is not what makes this PTB. That's a fairly normal response. What makes this PTB is deciding to use your mod powers as a means to inflict negativity on people, inflicting punishment on people not because of the rules, but because you feel like it. You explicitly admitted to doing this: "Now I'm removing it just to spite you".
I responded politely once and they escalated, after that, it's fair fucking game.
No, it isn't. Exactly this mindset is why we call it "power-tripping" because you think the powers given to you to enforce rules are "fair fucking game" to use as a tool to inflict negativity.
Respond with negativity if you wish, but leave your mod powers out of it. Invoking mod powers to punish someone who hasn't broken the rules is definitionally abuse of power.
fair game
So you enjoy power tripping and being a bastard, and do it just because you want to?
If you come at me hot I will ruin you
That is the corniest, clowniest, cringiest shit I've ever fucking read, and it's absolutely hysterical that you think posting a pic so old it's actually still called an image macro while modding like a petty child is "ruining" someone.
You're displaying an emotional age that's less than half the age of the image you posted. For your own sake and the sake of everyone around you, please grow up.
I'm delivering all that PTB deserves and it's a delight.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=10322262
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=521052
The people who screech the loudest have the most deserving modlogs.
"PTB" has "power" in the name. One cannot be a "PTB" without having power over others, such as mod or admin rights.
This is true, but why is it that the audience in PTB seems to be a bunch of people with modlogs as long as your arm for hateful, homophobic, and transphobic comments across multiple instances and communities?
That's not one bad mod. That's a community of bad actors chafing against people who dare to tell them "No. Not allowed."
Response is always the Internet equivalent of the most Karenish Karen who ever Karened. "I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!"
It's absolutely hilarious that you're trying to justify your behavior by describing my modlog, which summarizes a total of four encounters over more than two years, as "as long as your arm."
It's also notably pathetic, and wickedly ironic, since one of those encounters was with a mod who seemed to behave such as yourself, in a particular event involving an incredibly hostile vegan calling everyone cow-fucking rapists. Yeah, apparently that's okay, but asking them if they're a false flag because of how absolutely unhelpful that behavior is towards changing people's minds constitutes incivility.
Of course, it doesn't surprise me you would blindly stand behind any mod action. You honestly seem like the "might makes right" type, regardless of how small your "might" actually is. I'd be willing to bet the only reason you're here trolling like this is because the limit of your power is entirely within communities I've never once participated in.
Oh, and also, don't you dare ever spread such vile fucking lies about me again you piece of shit. I'm going to be directly contacting the administration of your instance about this.
It's not just you, it's, well, most everyone in this group.
Over and over again, calls for violence, encouraging suicide, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and when you get called out on your bullshit it's "Well I never! How dare you!"
Funny, modlog says different.
You want a mod to treat you fairly? Don't be an asshole.
You have multiple accounts with removals and bans for cause. It really looks like you just never learn:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=10322262
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=521052
It's not just you
Over and over again, calls for violence, encouraging suicide, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and when you get called out on your bullshit it's "Well I never! How dare you!"
Thank you for confirming you were referring to me when you made those heinous lies before.
You want a mod to treat you fairly? Don't be an asshole.
Yeah, not how it works. You know what it's called when police, government officials, and people with actual power behave like this? A crime. You literally just described abuse of power, the exact thing this community is designed to draw attention to.
Funny, modlog says different.
You have multiple accounts with removals and bans for cause.
If you actually put any thought or action into anything you ever did here, you would know how absolutely bullshit your statements here are.
First off, yes, I have multiple accounts. Four, in fact. If you paid attention, you would realize that two of those were on instances that shut down. But no, you have to try and imply that I burned accounts and moved on because of all my bans or whatever. A clear sign of someone with a quality argument founded in facts, right?
Let's go on and look at those "for cause" removals and bans, shall we?
I called someone out for being a bigot in a thread about Nexus Mods removing hateful mods (a look at your future?). The entire comment chain was blanket removed.
I received a three day ban from Lemmyshitpost almost two years ago for "incivility." Amongst my removed comments were maybe two I would admit we're uncivil. Otherwise, they were a comment about a sudden influx of a specific type of comment and voting being similar to nonewnormal brigades from back on Reddit, asking a user of their antagonistic behavior is really intended to influence people, and calling them out for trolling when they informed me they were just there to bitch. I was banned with zero warning, and as far as I can tell, only people on one side of the argument got these blanket removals. Very "for cause," huh?
That's the entirety of my first account and an entire year on the service. Two events total. After the shutdown of LemmyOnline, I moved on to FMHY. I noticed you didn't link that one. Maybe it's because there were no mod actions there? Well, that doesn't fit your narrative, so let's ignore it.
Let's move on to this account, shall we?
An argument about the privacy of people in dangerous situations that became mildly uncivil. I was of the position that a service collecting phone numbers and releasing them to the police could endanger people already in dangerous situations. Fuck me, right? I'm so evil. The entire thread was removed, not just my comments.
I was banned from Lefty Memes for calling out the harmful behavior of a certain mod who was recently also in this community. In the recent instance, another mod stepped in and agreed that, yes, that particular mod has overstepped. I'm proud of that one. The only major mod action I've ever had, and it was for a good reason.
Four months ago, I had two comments removed. Once again, these comments were made standing against transphobia and bigotry, as opposed to your narrative. This removal wasn't even an action against me, the bigot made an off-ropic thread which got removed.
Two months ago, I had a comment removed where I responded to someone parroting MAGA talking point quite rudely. I made some personal attacks that are about half as bad as the ones you've made in this thread. The removal message was simple, "attack the argument, not the person." I took the advice and made a new comment which is still up.
That's it. That's everything. You sit here, acting like anyone who's ever had a single mod action against them is a hateful bigot transphobe, and you cite the smallest matters, even one that prove the exact opposite, as if they're all you need. You don't even understand your own argument, but you keep making it.
To you, bigotry is clearly nothing but a weapon. Something you can wield against anyone who disagrees with you, screeching "Bigot! Bigot!" any time someone dares to call you out on your bullshit. It doesn't matter to you. None of it. Bigotry, transphobia , homophobia, it's all just a flimsy justification for your behavior to you.
I'm done engaging with you, your behavior has been nothing but revolting.
I see lemmy.world and I just say "PTB!" and I skip the details. :)
PTB!
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
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