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Teams (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 days ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[-] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago

... I bet they'd be able to work remotely if they switched to Slack :P

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

Of all things to poke Microsoft for this one makes no sense. Isn't understanding your weaknesses a strength?

[-] entwine@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago

An RTO mandate isn't growth. Growth would be if they mandated all hard drives containing Teams source code be thrown into a dumpster, and the dumpster lit on fire.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 4 days ago

I don't think microsoft understands shit. I think their leaders are out of touch, lying, idiots. They continue to exist based on inertia and past success.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

Not on ~~Lemmy~~ social media 😜

[-] kalpol@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Teams teams team Teams teams

[+] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de -27 points 4 days ago

It's true though, and there's no technological improvement to communication software that can ever change this.

If you sit physically next to your colleagues, you can at all times see what they are working on, talking to each other about, etc., and thereby learn more about the project and the company; if you work remotely and have to explicitly choose to communicate, you miss out on all of that.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago

I miss so many meetings when I'm in the office.

I talk with someone away from my desk and meetings happen without me (doesn't happen at home, no one there to talk to)

I make a coffee, in the office kitchen, and don't notice the ding on my computer (doesn't happen at home as the kitchen is near the study)

Last time I had to be in the office was to support new staff, so the missed meetings were due to talking to the new staff (but mostly about Minecraft)

I know I'm more productive at home, I'm pretty sure all the programmers are happier at home due to the lesser noise

I think when I was in the office with a colocated team we had some efficiencies, particularly in collaboration while planning a piece of work that doesn't work nearly as well online, but my workplace is distributed across three timezones so we don't get to be colocated with our teams, so there's no productive talk to offset the recreational talk

[-] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 2 points 3 days ago

That's exactly my situation too.

Half my team is out of state and still remote.

So now half of us are in the office, walking around, away from our computers and "collaborating" like management wants, to the absolute exclusion of the other half of the team. And we miss messages, we don't see reminders, we are just AWAY on Teams to them. And our job is literally done 100% on a computer so all that time NOT on a computer is just wasted. And then when we go to a meeting, we have to walk to a room just to join a teams call and yell at the ceiling so the remote people can hear us. It's the worse of both worlds. Not remote, not all in office, but mixed.

I could understand it if 100% of employees could be in the office. Then we wouldn't have to waste time joining a teams call in a meeting room. We could just meet and chat. Fine. But this... This is so bad.