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[-] hazardous_area@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 days ago

How long can your knight hold its breath and how much fire damage are you doing per round? I think you may run out of air first. Definitely an interesting idea if it’s already hurt.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago

If its 5e, he can hold his breath for 1min + a number of minutes qual to the constitution modifier, which should be at least +2. That 30 rounds, with a lv 2 heat metal that's 60d8 or a 270hp average, with a lv 9 heat metal that's 270d8 or 1215 average. Water breathing spell is also super easy to get though one could say the inside of the kraken isn't exactly water.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Necklace of Adaptation lets you breathe normally in any environment. There's an Air Bubble spell in Astral Adventurer's Guide you could use instead of Water Breathing as well.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Very interesting! Though both are significantly harder to obtain than water breathing ofc

Also, tiny little detail I forgot to mention: heat metal is only 1min duration haha

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Harder than Water Breathing, but the necklace should be easier to get than the armor or ring mentioned in the original meme

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

oh yeah, not even sure those exist, its a 'combo' that requires a lot of pieces

[-] XM34@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago

Or he's just one of the dozens of races that can just decide to not beathe...

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Well yeah but kinda hard to swap if you aren't already one of those races.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

/theydidthemath

/theydidthemonstermath

though one could say the inside of the kraken isn't exactly water.

That's why the post says "ring of acid immunity" ;)

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That comment is about Water Breathing. Technically the inside of the Kraken wouldn't be water so the spell wouldn't work.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 4 days ago

5E characters can actually hold their breath for a silly amount of time, there's a solid chance here.

Assuming the knight has a +4 Con mod, they've got 5 minutes or 50 rounds before they suffocate. Heat metal averages 7 damage per round without upcasting, so you can expect around 350 damage before you pass out. A kraken has 150 hp on average, so it's done for

Amusingly, the rules do not technically specify a condition for the kraken to voluntarily regurgitate something, only for it to do so when triggered by taking a lot of damage in one go. Obviously no sensible GM is going to say that it can't do that, but by the most miserable RAW-only approach this plan actually seems to work

[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago

Now imagining a Kraken desperately trying to throw-up an Eldritch Knight while the Knight is trying as hard as possible to stay inside the Kraken.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

BRB, writing to Ask a DM to ask about the propulsive force of a Kraken's gag reflex...

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

I feel like an opposed strength check would be the easiest way to settle that

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 4 days ago

"Can I use my pitons to stay lodged inside?"

[-] hazardous_area@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

lol I’m used used to pf2e and pf1e were drowning kills, a lot.

Also that’s hilarious that it actually works. 5e is such a good time.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What if the kraken has a giant beak and treats your knight more like a crunchy hot cinnamon candy?

[-] dwemthy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Then spits them out when they fail a concentration save and the flavor goes away

[-] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago

You are assuming we have these items...

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 4 days ago

Sounds like somebody just started a quest for some items!

[-] grausames_G@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago

If my players went through all that trouble of obtaining those items they deserve that one win

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

If the throat of a Kraken is anything like a shark you'll be taking A (dm specified) LOT of bludgeoning damage each turn. Good luck on those concentration saving throws.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Literally did this as the bard-healer of the group; one of the players got swallowed by a construct, so I went in after him, healed him and then cast heat metal on my armor.......and then had to heal him again (I had full HP).

(Or maybe I cast heat metal on the construct; can't remember, it's been ages)

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