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Not going to happen.

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[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The information I have seen leads me to believe that something really fucking bad is about to happen, and WW3 is about to kick off for real.

  • Canada and the US are still far apart on any "deal" that would see the tariffs go away, and Canadians likely are never going back even if the relationship thawed politically.

  • Trump renamed the "Department of Defense", to the "Department of War"

  • Trump is currently sending troops to Portland. (I believe I read it was close to 1,800. Please correct me if wrong)

  • Days later, Trump starts talking 51st state bullshit again.

  • Let us not forget that Putin and Trump are friends, and any issues between them are 100% performative.

Meanwhile:

  • China seems to be readying an attack on Taiwan.

  • China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

  • China is also buying up anything they can to get rights to our rare earth minerals.

Meanwhile:

  • Russia has also been poking around the Arctic.

  • Russia has been invading NATO airspace for some time now, specifically around where the leaders will gathered this week.

  • Reports of Russia potentially opening up a NATO front in the war with Ukraine.

Meanwhile:

  • Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

  • North Korea has been pushing some boundaries recently with South Korea.

I am missing a lot because I am just pulling from my memory (As an example the Saudi/Pakistan treaty that I didn't read into enough) but it just looks like this is it. I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I don't see these signals going any other way than directly to Global war.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

That's a bit dramatic. They agreed to some deals, and wrote a press statement about how they're BFFs. There's still no way in hell Russia trusts either, and so vice verse, and NK/China relations are a whole weird thing. Ditto for India and China, which have made the impressive step of no longer openly beating each other with literal sticks over territory.

But yes, there are many, many powder kegs waiting to go off. The only question is if it could actually go hot, or it will stop at proxy wars, espionage and tradefare like the last time.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

North Korea and Russia have a military alliance as North Korean soldiers were fighting in Ukraine with Russia under Russian control.

I agree that it is a press statement being BFFs, but China has been supporting Russia's war efforts with Russia saying they would also support Chinese war efforts. It is definitely a weird alliance, and they most certainly do not trust each other, but they are clearly working together to be a counter to "Western" influence and are likely going to increase military, intelligence, and trade ties.

I hope that it stops at proxy wars, espionage, and tradefare. I just do not see it as likely given the climate.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago

It's true that the three have become kind of aligned, I'll give you that. But, "alliance" implies something like NATO where an attack on one is an attack on all.

What you've mentioned are cases of Russia buying things. The NK troops were sent in exchange for technology and goods. China won't even sell devoted military hardware, only dual-use civilian technology.

[-] piskertariot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Canada should fast track nuclear armament.

We have the tech, we have zero reason not to.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

CANDU doesn't use enriched uranium. So unlike other nuclear powered countries we haven't built enrichment capacity necessary for power and weapons.

Worse, the new SMR projects being built make us dependent on the US for fuel since they use enriched uranium.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Well, we have treaties. With countries other than the United States.

Might still be worth gearing up to breach them if need be, though. I suspect most of them will understand.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You get Alberta, we get the west coast. Deal?

[-] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Better deal, the Albertans that want out get out, and the US explodes into multiple countries.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

"You know, I've got no direction to, you know, continue a dialogue on the 51st state. It hasn't been in play for months," he said.

Fucking Hoekstra. What a cock-gobbling sycophant.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This won't stop. There's too much money to be made to let it go. If we shift to the right, it's gonna get worse.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I’m floating Cascadia joining up with Canada.

[-] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 12 points 2 days ago

I feel like they'd do better as territories. Even the more left leaning US states have a very different political culture that I wouldn't want imported into Canada

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago
[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

I don't know about you but as a lifelong Albertan my life would improve if my city had even a little bit of the culture of like, Seattle. I'm not guessing, I have been there and it would be a place I'd consider moving if they weren't under fascist dictatorship keen on eradicating my people.

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[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

That'd be nice.

[-] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I’ll go back to the US when Trump and his cronies are dead.

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Fuck Trump, fuck the USA. We will never be a state.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

That's right. We'd be a territory. 😅

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Nah we’d be a “protectorate” like Guam, Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands. Plus a neverending insurgency for good measure. 🖕🇺🇸♾️

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I actually think he means statehood, since he very noticeably never offered it to the less-traditionally-white nation of Greenland.

It's still a booby deal in several other ways.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Which American AI generator did you use to make this?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

I mean, the Presidents are at 47 and States have not gone above 50 as long as most remember. The last time the numbers were this close, there was a civil war.

Still, why not start with DC and Puerto Rico, am I right?

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

OK I get it but you know my state would make a great provence.

[-] Justoboy98@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Hopefully he doesn’t know anything about war plan red….

[-] LemUrun@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

Oh fucking hell...

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

The precept behind this is that Canada needs the Golden dome to defend itself from Russia or China. What's lost is that NORAD defends the US from Russia. We should be paid to protect the US from Russia.

If we choose to not demonically hate Russia and China, as a carbon copy of US dictated demonic policy, then there is zero need to defend ourselves from what what we do not threaten. A nuclear attack on Canada involves us crossing a dementia line, where even if we're not the active threat to human countries, exterminating Canadians is viewed as a net global positive. Europe is far ahead of our dementia, and a legitimate threat to humanity in its demonic fascist evil, we would STFU quickly when US bases in Europe are nuked. We already do not need NORAD for defense of Canada. Our section of golden dome would only be to protect the US, and so if they want to build it, they MUST pay us to build it. They also need to start paying us for NORAD. Chinese missiles will not go through Artic to hit US, and again, the best defense is to stop being stupid vs humanity, and being part of same alliances as US.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago

What the fuck are you talking about?

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

We don't need a golden dome. The only country that will ever be a threat to us is US. If the US wants a golden dome they need to pay us to help with shielding their pure evil.

The other lie is that "its free if Canada gets burdened by huge US historical debt" (all resulting from department of war)

That there is no leader or media in Canada explaining this basic reality to Canadians proves our colonial status and our brainwashing to desperate slavery.

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