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submitted 3 days ago by jzb@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

The openSUSE project has released Leap 16, its first major release since openSUSE Leap 15 in May 2018. This release brings some changes to the core of the distribution aside from the usual software upgrades; YaST has been retired, SELinux has replaced AppArmor as the default mandatory access control (MAC) system, and more.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Perhaps I'm just not the target audience for a pretty UI rework but it really grinds my gears to see it be running in Firefox. A whole browser for a GUI is insane?? I'm sure it will improve with time but when it loaded on my VM it reminded me of a virus opening a browser window.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I guess, the idea is mainly that you can also perform the installation over the network. I can imagine this being quite cool for setting up a Raspberry Pi or similar.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

What really? I thought the screenshot looked like electron/web app slop but I was like, maybe they've just gone for a "modern" gtk/qt theme. It's actually just a Firefox PWA?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's explicitly built to run in a browser: https://agama-project.github.io/

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My reading is that the installer is no longer based on YaST, not that YaST has been retired overall.

[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

All of YaST is deprecated because it was too difficult to maintain, and the devs are constantly telling people to stop using it over on the official forums. We're supposed to have switched to Cockpit and Myrlyn by now.

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I had no idea! It seems like it was a really unruly project to manage, but it's a shame to lose the centralization of having one app that can configure anything. I don't see any problem in having package management split off into Myrlyn, but it sounds like Cockpit is much more limited in scope, which is a shame, since handling the edge cases gracefully was what made YaST so useful.

Here's a source for others who didn't realize.

[-] original_reader@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

I truly hope they don't retire it until there's a true successor. Yast is in its own class of admin tools.

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

Agreed. Fortunately, I don't see anything about that being planned, they are just separating system installation from system management. I'm fine with that, as long as the new installer keeps the good control over partition management.

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