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[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

That’s not even an opinion anymore, it’s just an accurate description of events in the country

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Except a third or more of that 80% thinks the crisis is the "violent radical left antifa superpredators."

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

The funny thing is yes 80% may say that we are in a political crisis. But it depends on which side of the aisle you're on as far as what you consider that political crisis to be. Well yes we may agree there is a political crisis there are many that are calling for stricter controls in many of us that are calling for the leaders to be given the French treatment.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

The only way out is;

  1. Landslide against Republicans for 2026 MidTerms.
  2. Landslide agains Republicans in 2028; to the point where they no longer exist.
  3. New progressive Democratic Party.
  4. Landslide against Right-Wing Democrats in 2030 Midterms
  5. Landslide against Right-Wing Democrats in 2032.
[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

That's assuming that America is going to have free and fair elections (if at all) ever again.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

I admit that that is a pretty big assumption, but I do have faith in the people.

It may be misplaced faith.

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We already don’t have them.

What if 8 years of election fraud bullshit was the setup to poison the waters when they actually use the techniques?

This is Russian psyops 101: play/fund both sides so when both are revealed corrupt, the populace is too confused to know what’s real.

So republicans say, for years, “Your Russian election claim is a hoax!” And then we get, “They stole the 2020 election!”

Now we have more statistical information showing signs of manipulation, but because Republicans have called out their opponent as manipulating elections, researchers are afraid too report facts based on voting tabulation.

We are in crisis. The country is socially fractured. We’ve been manipulated by our enemy (Russian oligarchs/mob/Putin). They repeated the lies enough that MAGA will believe any dumb shit while Democrats look like they are using Republican insults or tactics.

We’ve all been duped.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’m pretty certain the 2024 election was rigged.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What the heck do the other 20% think? All is fine? Or are they just off-grid for months?

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

"People in a burning house believe there might be a fire inside their house"

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s definitely frightening how one “influencer” being killed seems to have made things worse. They not only didn’t learn from the consequences of stoking the flames of divisiveness, but keep piling on the fuel. How does it not hit them that their own actions are what is causing this crisis, and how do they not think it might have gone too far? How are they so cynically exploiting the situation without the slightest hint of awareness that “this could be me next”?

[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I am surrounded by engineers and scientists.. more than half of them dont vote beacause " this does not affect me". Frustrates me so much. This are educated people, relatively speaking. Maybe because they are still well-off economically? I don't know. I don't understand how they are so uninterested.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

The engineers and scientists in my neck of the woods are very concerned about the shit that's going on. The unionized floor techs on the other hand lean far more favorably to the orange dolt.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Do you work at a shooting yourself in the foot factory or something? How the fuck could you be in a union and support Donald fucking trump or anyone associated with him?

[-] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

This is pretty common in the US unfortunately. Lots of union leadership and membership both lean hard right. Part of it is due to reactionary thinking and constant propaganda, and part is due to lots of people just being fucking stupid and illogical.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

This is not how it's always been.

Unions etc used to be reliably Democratic.

Over time the unions have been hollowed out and the Democratic party has increasing had an image problem.

These lower workers think that the Democrats are only pandering to "woke" problems which that population obviously doesn't think affect them(and in some cases is actually detrimental).

This is not really true but it is what they think and it's one of the reasons Trump does so well in that demographic regardless of what he does.

[-] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. And it extends to more than just democrats. Unions have been brainwashed into thinking all progressive platforms are bad for labor, which is nuts. Have union guys in my city literally pitching about how labor socialists are anti-worker and MAGA candidates are better for them.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

An entirely self created one

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The beloved Patriot Act 20 years later.

Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

[-] MagicianWithABadPlan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The voters created this mess. The real argument should be for education.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, half of voters did. But I agree about education

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Critical thinking skills and being able to form your own opinion and back it up with evidence should be taught in grade school. Most people don't get an introduction to this until college.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

I'd be pretty happy if elementary logic was a high school requirement.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

For reference, only 84% of Americans believe the Earth is round. . That this statement has about as much agreement is not surprising, but it's worth keeping in mind that 15%-20% of people are going to disagree with literally any statement you poll them on, even basic facts.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Didn't Universal Background Checks have like 91% support after Sandy Hook?

I remember it because I'd never seen anything poll so high in the US.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The entire world is fucked and pickering its butthole with ww3 about to start

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cooked, deepfried.

On July 4, 2026, the ~~US Army~~ [REDACTED]

On July 4, 2026, nothing happened in Lafayette Square, Washington D.C. Absolutely zero university students died. Its was just a routine military parade with tanks. Anyone spreading false rumors is a foreign agent ANTIFA attempting to destablize our big beautiful democracy, and will therefore be charged with "Subversion of State Power". GOD BLESS 'MURICA 👊🇺🇸🔥

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

The US or all of America? The US snobs keep writing "America" as if the US is the only thing that consists of America.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

It's just colloquialism, comrade, it's not that deep. It's not as though Canada calls themselves Canada of America, and Mexico is already the United States of Mexico. No other American country even have the continents in their name, northern or southern.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

This is such a dumb argument. You know who and what people talk about. Fucking no one is talking about "the Americas" on a regular basis. No one.

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Just say US then. If the US is so great and so proud, say US. Latin America exists. It ain't not there.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

the fact that you said Latin America already undercut your point. everyone knows what the title says. language is supposed to be cooperative.

this is no different than if i said "I'm going to Korea next month" and someone was like "um, what do you mean by Korea? are you talking about ROK or DPRK? coz the latter would be tough, and I doubt you're going all over the entire Korea" like shut up you know what i mean

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

So yeah there's a difference obviously, and I live in the US so people around me always use it that way.

But when I see somebody in European media refer to the American people, or some country getting aid and/or bombed by "America" or "the Americans" it is almost certainly about the USA.

I think there are similarities with other regions if not single countries. Hopefully this isn't an American thing too, but when somebody refers to Asian people it often means East Asian, and not somebody from Saudia Arabia or northern Russia.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I've noticed recently that our European family and friends have this pattern where they'll call it America or the USA when they're saying something positive or hopeful about the country, but then they'll say "the States" or "the US" when being critical or showing concern. It's very interesting and I wonder how common that is.

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