No, that can't be right. Forced use of photo ID for age verification couldn't possibly lead to leakage of said IDs. The purity police assured us!
think of the children!!!!!! :< :< :< :< :<
Coincidentally an alarming lot of people that impose pure bullshit on us seems to think of the children a tad too much.
I knew this was gonna happen
Candidly, I did not expect it so soon.
I am honestly surprised it took this long for a company to get hacked(surprised it was discord though).
They're not the first. The first one happened in the same week the digital safety act was put in place
Noe that makes more sense.
I am surprised it took this long. Probably happening since day one and just now getting reported.
Even if it wasn't, they would sold your data to someone anyways, MEta being obivous
And you didn't tell Discord??
Official statement from Discord: "Oopse woopse we did a fucky wucky. Sue us hahaha you won't"
Called it.
And the "Tea" app leak happened right before these age-verification rules started popping up everywhere. It's obvious cause and effect, but it was also demonstrated RIGHT before.
Don't put your hand on a hot stove, especially after watching someone burn their hand on that hot stove.
Do people really have to scan an ID to us Discord?
No. According to an article the IDs were from people who were challenging an age determination. Still bullshit, but you don't need ID to use Discord as a general rule.
The unauthorized party also accessed a “small number” of images of government IDs from “users who had appealed an age determination.”
Small is, of course, a relative term. I would consider a small number to be 2 or 3. They may feel that 10,000 users is a small number. Who can say?
as a very minimum, it would make sense to demand safe-deleting the photo immediately after the verification process, with fucking prison time to someone if it is found they did not comply with that.
but that is clearly not the direction the society is going 🤷♂️
Apparently if they get flagged as underage when they aren't.
Yet another example of how requiring ID is a shit idea.
It's used by some Discord communities to prevent spam/bots. This would be inconjunction with other measures like how some communities require a verified email or to have a phone number associated with your account.
While those exist, those wouldn't have been affected by this breach (or if they were it was only incidentally) - those communities are not using Discord's age verification but are doing it through DMs (or a 3rd party service). Discord communities do not have access to age or ID verification tools, nor do they have the ability to impose restrictions based off age or ID verification (yet, there is rumored to be an age-verification access restriction beta going out, but it apparently doesnt use ID)
That fast, huh?
I really wish there was a good competitor to Discord. I have not found one that has the same screen sharing feature. Revolt (now Stoat) gets close but lacks the screen sharing - something me and my friends use a lot. They are adding this soon so hopefully it is good
Now more than ever people will have to choose between privacy and comfort. And not to be a dick, but now more than ever, people choosing comfort are fucking over people who choose privacy.
Matrix or Jitsi with Lemmy or any popular forum software would be my suggestion. More secure and private but require some technical knowledge.
Matrix is an absolutely pale imitation of Discord.
Yes it is very upsetting that the most popular chat platform in the Western world is in league with Sauron, but Matrix as a replacement is a glorified ICQ client that regularly yells at you that your device is untrusted now and there's no hope of fixing it, you loser.
I don't know why people keep saying this. You either pay for a service, or you get a company extracting as much data as they can from you for advertiser or VC money. Servers and bandwidth cost money
Revolt (Stoat?) is alright, but good luck getting people to join there lol, Discord is the only thing people are willing to join
Best part:
The unauthorized party gained access to “information from a limited number of users who had contacted Discord through our Customer Support and/or Trust & Safety teams”
Lol I thought they were supposed to delete the ID images once confirmed
"Haha, and you believed us" -Discord
Crazy, that thing I said would happen finally happened.
didn't take too long either
Sigh
More people need to use matrix and xmpp instead!
Ah yes, another reason not to give me ID to these tech companies. Anyone that demands my ID online can go fuck themselves while I find a replacement service.
My take on this is a little more fundamental than the whole ID/age thing. We all knew this would happen, and why? Because nobody has addressed the first problem. Security is only as strong as the weakest link, and companies are not transparent with customers.
Companies spell out in their Terms and Privacy statements that they have Affiliates that data gets shared with. And they want you to accept them all blindly, without clarifying who they are and what they do.
Even here, with a reported breach, they are not naming them and just calling them "third party". So they screwed up and many people have their information and IDs out in the wild because if them, but we don't even get to know who they are?
His are we to trust a company of we don't know who they're in bed with? How are we to rate their security and assess our risk of using their service without all the information?
As far as I can tell Discord handled it pretty well as far as breaches go. But maybe if I know they are using a shit company as one of their vendors I might think twice about using them.
Its the same logic as the next article in my feed, where crunchyroll is getting pushback from the subtitle service they are using. And that's not even their own security in mind. People make choices based on what companies do, so be transparent with it all and we will have the warm fuzzies if things match up. If they don't then the company gets customer feedback so they can adjust.
I tried getting my friends to move to any other chat client but the thing that keeps them on discord is the screen share. Like it or not, this feature is what's locking people in as a one stop shop game streaming chat.
did you ever use jitsi? its not a chat platform, but one for video calls. it supports screen sharing and its very good. it works standalone, there are public instances
matrix used to use jitsi for group calls. I don't know what does it use now as a transition to an in house service has been in the works for a few years now, and element call just now starts to get mature enough, but I'm almost sure you can do screen sharing right now too. but try to check how usable it is before you try to get your friends to use it. if it doesn't work well, they may not accept your advice (as easily) in the future to switch chat providers
I wish I could convince my giant discord community to go anywhere else. It's so fucking hard. I've built IRC networks and a matrix server. I host every fediverse app imaginable. I hate being attached to this company and my income being reliant on it.
I hear you. I used to teach classes in a particular field and most people followed our updates and events on Facebook. I tried for years to change that and pry people loose from the Zuck. Mostly unsuccessfully. I agree with the other user who suggested bridging protocols. Bridge them then incentivise use of the good one and/or disincentivise use of the evil one to naturally encourage people to migrate.
Indeed, seems the only path forward. Thansk for sharing.
One of Discord’s third-party customer service providers was compromised by an “unauthorized party,” the company says.
So, not Discord but a 3rd party company that handle Discord's customer service, and if you didn't use their customer service then you're not affected.
So, Discord - by forcing your acceptance of their tos which renders them immune from damages done by "third parties*
By offloading a term of service that Discord requires you to provide.
If they force you to give the info, they are responsible for handling and storing it properly, no matter what some evil lawyer or exec says.
If laws make bad things legal because rich people can use words, then there needs to be some form of redress to return the spirit of the laws to the people.
Maybe we all make usernames with a legally binding personal ToS that is deemed agreed upon by the corporation accepting the username.
This is just a shell game and they are conmen.
Moral of the story, never ask for help.
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
