1126

submitted 1 week ago by Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

182 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 6 days ago

I am pan and I have played a few games where a character is revealed as gay and got the same response from me because it just felt forced. The token gay person. Or, in at least one, most of the characters are gay and it's not strictly about gay stuff. They're just there for brownie points and tend to also be incredibly shallow characters who are only defined as "gay." I don't feel that is representative of anything but some empty corporate suit saying "we want your money, fag."

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago

Zagreus in Hades is obviously Bi (or Pan) the whole time and no one cared, why, because it's not forced, I think it's kinda expected actually, so it just feels right. Same with Lucifer in the Lucifer TV show.

And sometimes a character is just gay and you find out in notes or something and it's like, neat, and then you move on.

On the other hand you have a random trans character in Hogwarts Legacy. It's a magical world, you have potions and spells to change not only your gender but you can even be a tiny mouse or a massive dragon, what's the point of that?!

[-] GR4CELESS@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

You had me in the first half. She was there, but she didn't force you to listen to her story. She just existed. Like, sure, she was clocky; that's just how it is for girls who transition later in life. She mentions that she's been on a journey, and if you, the player, choose the appropriate dialogue option, she'll tell you her story, which, oddly enough, might be the less realistic thing. There are a lot of trans people who would prefer not to share that, because there are a lot of not-trans people who will change their tune and use information about a person who no longer exists to hurt the person they've transitioned into.

Zagreus (and Melinoë presumably) on the other hand are not obviously pan until you, the player, start pursuing same-sex relationships. Given that Hades and II are based on Greek mythology, it might come as no surprise, but it's not like there's an aspect of facial or body shape that obviously identifies someone as being lesbian/gay/bi/pan like there tend to be for trans people (especially femmes and women, ESPECIALLY in a world without cosmetic surgery, hand-wavey magic aside). She didn't hurt you, so be happy that some people did feel seen and move on with your life.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Don't get me wrong, maybe I came out too strong, she doesn't bother me, and if it makes someone happy then I'm happy. I just think it's bad storytelling that's all.

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I don't like it when fiction makes a minority "special" like only queer people being protagonists who can save the world, because it still singles them out. It doesn't matter if it's something positive. We are all one, nobody is special or less than a person because they were born with this or that characteristic.

Remember that quote from Rick and Morty? "Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die. Come watch TV."? Add "nobody is special" and we are cooking.

Then the epic protagonist can save the world even if they aren't really special, and still happen to be queer. Not because they are queer, not despite being queer. They are simply who they are. And they are someone who saves the world.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

gosh, fucking finally people are stopping to get so polarized on the topic.

I hope, this way of thought would become more popular asap, so the studios would finally realise that they should pay the fucking scenarists and let them just do their job, instead of coming up with stupid requests amid the working process about making character be x, no matter how much it breaks the initial idea, making a piece of media into some kind of caricature, misrepresenting both lgbtq+ and the talent of a given scenarist, making just a mediocre product for the first, while also polarizing bigots even more, cuz obviously, "this game sucks cuz they spent all ihe money on them damn gays".

Fucking corpos...

Ah fucking damit, sorry for rambling

[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Gets man bro protagonists in the last 100 games:

Gets 1 female protagonist: WOKE GIRLBOSS BS!

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

One female protagonist that's written exactly like a male and is basically just a skin swap*

[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Funny how men can’t write female characters but that’s still the woman’s fault lol

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago

This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 6 days ago

Broke: This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

Woke: Link is right-handed because we flipped the entire game

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I went out of my way to wait and play the GC version of Twilight Princess because I didn't want to play in a mirrored world with a right-handed Link. No waggle controls was a bonus.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This gamer: chooses a female character so I can stare at her ass the whole time.

On an unrelated note, I am really enjoying Stellar Blade.

[-] liuther9@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Good

[-] melfie@lemy.lol 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Spoilers ahead, BTW.

I was playing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and legit didn’t realize there was a romance option with Hans Capon until the cutscene where Henry locked the door, at which point, I was quite startled, and then realized that the dialog options with a heart next to them are romance and not just being a good, supportive friend. I am not gay and did not really want to see that myself, but do applaud the inclusivity. 🙈 I can imagine gay people feel the same having to muddle through the straight romance options in other games. The fact that I wasn’t expecting it shows this is way less common than it should be.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

The one thing that bugs me about cyberpunk 2077 is the main story has an unskippable (straight) sex scene, I know they're almost a meme in gaming culture but I'm not here for that kind of content.

[-] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I have no interest in seeing stuff like that in games, tv shows, or movies. Fade to black quickly while they're kissing, we get it, let's move on. If you want to watch porn then watch porn, I'm trying to game or follow the story.

Only time it should be shown is if it advances a specific plot point in some way or form but 99% of the time it's not that.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Yeah but they were just groomed to lefty sympathies by Shigeru Miyamoto

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Someone should overlay the graph showing the rise of the acceptance of left-handedness over time, with a graph of Zelda releases over time.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago

Oh it's OK. The main character is a woman.

Genuinely struggling to think of any game where you play a gay man... Like as a forced thing, not an option like Fable 2.

load more comments (3 replies)

[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

What kind of games are y'all playing? In the games I usually play the sexual orientation of the characters isn't mentioned at all. So for all I know they could be straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever.

The last game I remember playing where the protagonists wife was mentioned (implying he's not gay) was Max Payne, 25 years ago.

The engineer in Factorio doesn't care for men or women, all he cares for is that the factory must grow. And afaik it's never mentioned wether Jebediah Kerman is into Bob, Bill or Valentina. None of the thousands of enemy soldiers I have shot in various shooters ever told me whom they're in love with. And all the Sims I might have killed by burning down the city were just numbers for all I know.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Character driven story games place at least some emphasis on sexuality and relationships in many games. Cyberpunk, The Witcher, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate 3, The Last of Us.

[-] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 3 points 6 days ago

To be clear, you define the sexuality of your own character in BG3. Every companion NPC, on the other hand, will have a boner for you if you take them on adventures and do stuff they like, regardless of your character's race, sex, or religion.

[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Ok, maybe I just play the wrong games. I haven't payed any of those.

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

It's definitely a genre thing.

Sim games, platformers, management games, multiplayer shooters etc very rarely bring it into the equation because in those games then either:

A) There's no named protagonist at all

B) The protagonist is 'You' so as little as possible is depicted about them to be unobtrusive

C) The protagonist notionally exists and has a name and depiction, yet they are so irrelevant to the story that no details about them are provided.

Narrative-driven games are a totally different beast.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago

Bro playing Gear Simulator wondering why gears don't have names, feelings, gender, or sexual preference.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

There's never a wrong game! Play what you want.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Last of Us 1 & 2 are the first ones that comes to mind. And both games are really fucking good because of it, not in spite of it.

You're talking about games that don't have a narrative, of course the characters aren't going to have sexuality.

load more comments

this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2025

1126 points (96.7% liked)

People Twitter

8349 readers

979 users here now

People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.

RULES:

Mark NSFW content.
No doxxing people.
Must be a pic of the tweet or similar. No direct links to the tweet.
No bullying or international politcs
Be excellent to each other.
Provide an archived link to the tweet (or similar) being shown if it's a major figure or a politician. Archive.is the best way.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

SendMeYourTaTas@sh.itjust.works

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works