Big defeats for Tories but party holds on to Uxbridge (www.bbc.co.uk)

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[-] Hogger85b@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Shows people don't want to change habits for cleaner air as apparently ULEZ is main reason, but still dissapointing so many vote Tory when the chips are down

However good to see the red wall turning red again shows the Brexit blip was just that a single issue "to get it done" shame they fell for the lies that Corbyn wouldn't get a better Brexit and maybe we should have talked a bit more about it than the shitshow we have now

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It will take a good balance of carrot and stick to get people out of their cars. I think a lot of the pushback is coming from those who still feel public transport in inferior for their needs. We need to keep improving our buses and trains as well as discouraging car usage. The ongoing strikes probably aren’t helping the image of public transit either.

Also for all the talk of opposition to ULEZ Labour still achieved a big swing. There’s plenty of people who don’t oppose it (or not that strongly).

[-] Unquote0270@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I think a lot just feel it is their right to use a car and being told not to is a threat to that autonomy so unfortunately they are stuck in this knee jerk reaction that they probably don't even really understand. And then there are others, like my housemate, who are very interested in cars as a hobby and feel threatened due to having that taken away from them.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, for context - almnost any petrol car registered after 2006 is going to be compliant. Any diesel after 2015

[-] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And of course ICE cars I'm going to start being phased out in a few years anyway.

[-] Hogger85b@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone in Uxbridge that thinks their public transport is poor is looking for excuses. they have Chilton railway, circle, picadilly and metropolitan UGlines and busses with frequency measured in minutes

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard that the problems are about moving around the area itself. The links to central London are good but moving laterally is harder. I’m not familiar with the area myself so I don’t know how true that is.

[-] Hogger85b@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I used to commute by public transport in that area from high Wycombe to chalfont at Giles 15-20min walk at each end but nothing unsurmountable, some of my colleagues refused saying it was too far from tha station.

Problems are likily to be if you use the m25 and get off your spur, so like Uxbridge to st albans or Uxbridge to Leatherhead then I can see going through the center is a pain. But if public transport is not good enough in one of the best connected cities in the world we are never going to solve the problem.

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