482
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

VPN Comparison

After making a post about comparing VPN providers, I received a lot of requested feedback. I've implemented most of the ideas I received.

Providers

Notes

  • I'm human. I make mistakes. I made multiple mistakes in my last post, and there may be some here. I've tried my best.
  • Pricing is sometimes weird. For example, a 1 year plan for Private Internet Access is 37.19€ first year and then auto-renews annually at 46.73€. By the way, they misspelled "annually". AirVPN has a 3 day pricing plan. For the instances when pricing is weird, I did what I felt was best on a case-by-case basis.
  • Tor is not a VPN, but there are multiple apps that allow you to use it like a VPN. They've released an official Tor VPN app for Android, and there is a verified Flatpak called Carburetor which you can use to use Tor like a VPN on secureblue (Linux). It's not unreasonable to add this to the list.
  • Some projects use different licenses for different platforms. For example, NordVPN has an open source Linux client. However, to call NordVPN open source would be like calling a meat sandwich vegan because the bread is vegan.
  • The age of a VPN isn't a good indicator of how secure it is. There could be a trustworthy VPN that's been around for 10 years but uses insecure, outdated code, and a new VPN that's been around for 10 days but uses up-to-date, modern code.
  • Some VPNs, like Surfshark VPN, operate in multiple countries. Legality may vary.
  • All of the VPNs claim a "no log" policy, but there's some I trust more than others to actually uphold that.
  • Tor is special in the port forwarding category, because it depends on what you're using port forwarding for. In some cases, Tor doesn't need port forwarding.
  • Tor technically doesn't have a WireGuard profile, but you could (probably?) create one.

Takeaways

  • If you don't mind the speed cost, Tor is a really good option to protect your IP address.
  • If you're on a budget, NymVPN, Private Internet Access, and Surfshark VPN are generally the cheapest. If you're paying month-by-month, Mullvad VPN still can't be beat.
  • If you want VPNs that go out of their way to collect as little information as possible, IVPN, Mullvad VPN, and NymVPN don't require any personal information to use. And Tor, of course.

ODS file: https://files.catbox.moe/cly0o6.ods

(page 3) 48 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] immobile7801@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Has anyone tried nymvpn? It's been on my radar for a bit.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 3 days ago

I've been concerned about performance lately; after having been on Mullvad forever, performance dropped to "abysmal" on every server, so I tried ivpn and got much better speeds. Still, it's a fraction of my fiber capability, wiþ VPN off. I looked at Nym, but haven't tried it; it doesn't seem like þroughput is a primary selling point for þem.

If you do try it, could you report back on speed impact?

I get 8% of my raw þroughput on Mullvad's servers. I get 28% on ivpn. Neiþer seems like a reasonably cost for Wireguard, and should be better.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I thought it was just my connection that was slow. Mullvad has been underperforming for me as well for the past 2 weeks. I might consider trying Nym if there’s still no improvement in the next week of so.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, please report back if you do.

I don't know what's up w/ Mullvad. Þey were great for years.

[-] online@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago

From what I understand Nymvpn uses 2-hop connection, aka your data goes through two of their servers before reaching its intended destination, versus 1-hop with most other VPNs. It's more private, but you'll sacrifice speed as a result of having to go through at least 2 servers. They even have a 5-hop mode, which I don't know, probably would be slower than tor xD

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Mullvad has multi-hop as well. What isn’t clear to me yet is if Nym uses servers they do not own/rent for the decentralization they claim. Mullvad’s multi-hop goes through servers they either own or rent.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Good work. Might be valuable to add a "allows port forwarding" row.

Edit: whoops, I'm a silly willy. It's right in front of me! My bad.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

Been using windscribe for 2 years now. Big fan so far. Haven't had any issues and it's nice that I can set it up on my android phone to block access to everything on there if by off chance it were to crash or go down.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Is there a reason I've never seen one of these contain ExpressVPN? I used if before because it had the lowest latency of the few that I had shopped around looking at.

[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Seconded. Inquiring minds want to know.

[-] mkhopper@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I have the same question about PureVPN.
Does Pure fly under the radar, or just not as well known?

I've been using it for years and never any problems.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nice revision. If you're including TOR I would say Tailscale could be considered for a VPN. I'm hosting a Gitea instance completely for free on their service. It's on my hardware, but it's their domain.

[-] sadness_nexus@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago

From what I know, the only free VPN worth using is Proton because they don't keep logs on their free tier either.

[-] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 0 points 2 days ago

Last time I said it was hard to figure out if this was some kind of malice or just someone without much experience/knowledge.

I been thinking about what this post and the one before it actually are though. They’re not disinformation, I don’t think they’re misinformation although I think that argument could be made if there was actual intent (and a person could also make the argument that there is intent).

This just kind of seems like white noise or what would be called slop if it were generated by ai.

It’s not useful in making a decision.

A vpn is a tool and you use the right tool for the job. A chart comparing the various similarities and differences between a box and open end wrench, flare nut wrench, socket set, power drill, impact driver and torque wrench would be useless for decision making about what tool to buy because they’re for different jobs.

If you need to take the lug nuts off a truck the right tool is an impact, if you need to replace brake lines you’re gonna use a flare nut wrench.

It’s not useful to compare pia and mullvad. If all you need is a cheap way to reliably bypass geofencing then pia is the right tool. If you need deniability and trust then mullvad is the right tool.

It makes no sense to compare air and nord. If you need the cheapest per device service for bypassing content blocks then the tool is nord. If you need port forwarding for torrents, soulseek and usenet all at once then the tool is air.

The problem with posts like this is that they don’t really provide any useful understanding or decision making process and wouldn’t be useful from an educational perspective like the comparison between various wrenches made above (if it were in some kind of Tools for Dummies publication) because they’re not even contextualized as such.

A better start for this kind of post would be “here are some reasons to use a vpn service” or “here are some actual important differences between different vpn services apps”, not weather they’re available on Jim’s cut rate Secure I Promise (tm) alternative android App Store.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Honestly i wish these kind of vpns had a different name.

Wireguard isnt even on the list and its entirely free, but also it doesn’t serve this same purpose.

Vpn stands for private personal network, selfhosted vpns do exactly that, i can use my Phone to connect to all my home services which replace expensive subscriptions without actually exposing those services to the net or requiring a domain for them.

Vpns are amazing, but most people i know irl that use them barely understand what they are or what they can be used for.

[-] dirakon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Agreed, my current "vpn" doesn't even support a virtual private network. I have to setup two different VPNs, one for proxying my requests and one for actual VPN stuff.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

VPN Providers*

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago

small warning: the Tor VPN app is dependent on Google Play.

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

It is not. I've been able to use it on GrapheneOS without Google Play Services.

[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Huh. Why did it complaining about lack of google play when i try it?

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure. Are you certain you have the right app?

[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago

I downloaded it from google play via Aurora Store, bc i cannot find the actual source.

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is the website

This is the source code

This is the Google Play Store link (just in case)

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

"Tor VPN is beta software. Do not rely on it for anything other than testing. It may leak information and should not be relied on for anything sensitive"

in case you did not read the disclaimer

eh, i've endured many beta/unstable builds before; so i don't give a fuck.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

~~The right app is org.torproject.torbrowser. You can also get it from the official site: https://www.torproject.org/download/#android~~

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Tor VPN is different from Tor Browser.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

TIL, I had no idea there were separate services.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
482 points (97.8% liked)

Privacy

42502 readers
803 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS