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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus to c/div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

It has come to my attention that there is some minor unrest on Hexbear due to statements they believe I made that they did not appreciate. there has been some small misunderstanding regarding them, so allow me, dear reader, to make my position clear so these terrible rumors can be put to rest.

some time ago, another user on our matrix asked for tips on trolling Hexbear in their communities. specifically, they asked what might be said that would garner the most rage. as I generally consider myself to be the obliging sort, I offered what pearls of wisdom I could.

now, a thoughtful reader might wonder why I didn't react with abject horror at the idea of someone trolling Hexbear, for that, I can only say that perhaps I thought it was proper comuppence for the brigading and harassment Hexbear used to perpetrate across the fediverse.

but I digress. the specific pearls of wisdom I offered were as such.


le gasp! how terrible! what scoundrel, what worthless cur would say that the soviet civilians deserved such a fate! genocide! fascist! liberal!

as you might have guess, discerning reader, Hexbear posits that such a scoundrel is me. they insist, that by saying the soviets deserved what they got, that I am actively supporting the genocide of twenty-seven million civilians. there are two problems with this, however.

one, I never said civilians. this is a word put into my mouth by tankies that are too fucking stupid to understand plain english. one would think that it is pretty obvious that it wasn't some poor farmer that was invading Poland for profit, but if one were to think such, then one wouldn't be a braindead tankie shitstain, and would instead be someone at least capable of the level of higher thought that evolution gave a jellyfish. it's pretty obvious to normal people that the ones gleefully invading other countries alongside the nazis were, in fact, soldiers. here they were at least right when they assumed I was gleefully celebrating the deaths of those soldiers. they fought with the nazis, they invaded other countries, and they don't get to absolve themselves of working with the nazis just because hitler turned on them, and tankies think that the country that supposedly single-handily fought and won WW2 are also the poor victims of the war, who had no choice in their actions.

two, there were no soviet civilians, merely innocent asian/eastern european souls that were held hostage by the soviet oligarchy and forced into starvation and destitution by an authoritarian system that valued propaganda more than human beings. the vast majority of those people probably would not have chosen to live in a dystopian hellhole were they given a chance, any more than the average North Korean wants to starve to death under the Kims. they were as much soviets as you or I, merely people with no freedom, and no other option but to live under the crushing boot of the imperialist USSR. they didn't help the nazis, because they were powerless in the face of the state.

neither of these two points has stopped Hexbear from whipping themselves into a frothing echo chamber of self-righteous disgust and anger, and demanding that I be removed from my mod positions and banned. a demand which has, so far, fallen on deaf ears that are used to the utter bullshit so often spewed by these feckless internet warriors. if there was an award for arguing in bad faith, we all know the reeking denizens of the lower planes we all colloquially call The Triad would win it.

as you probably have gathered by now, this is not an apology. I did not do anything wrong, especially not what they have accused me of, and so I will not apologize for it. not that they would be willing to consider such an apology anyway, because for them there is only one truth, and that is that they are always right, and everyone who is not them is an enemy and always wrong.

now, they have banned me, and so they can't see this, so I will instead tag @cowbee@lemmy.ml, a known affiliate of these heathens, who spent three paragraphs the other day downplaying the persecution of LGBT+ in the USSR before grudgingly using a mere two sentences in admitting the treatment.

my one regret, of course, is that since I have now blocked everyone from The Triad, I won't be able to read the no doubt angry replies they are fiercely typing out, in which they'll likely pour over my history to try and find something they can spin as damning evidence to back up their preconceptions. actually, now that I consider it, I find I don't regret that at all.

in conclusion, I want to say thank you to the comrades that have supported me through these almost trying times, fuck you to the haters who want to be me, and thank you to the haters who made the thread about me on c/Slop like I asked. you're the real MVP!

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 34 points 2 months ago

I almost cringed in half reading this. You guys really got nothing better to do than try to start Lemmy drama over stupid shit like this?

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

Same bro, don’t lump us all in on this please.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 8 points 2 months ago

I guess I didn’t mean “you guys” I just meant this one, specific guy.

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

That’s fair.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

This one specific guy moderates multiple coms

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

Well maybe he shouldn’t.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

He shouldn't, but it seems like the admin has his back

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Anyway, keep it civil and y'all engage in good faith please.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago

I really doubt this is going to be good-faith, he directly stated that he wants the drama in the post body. I'm not going to share this to c/slop, and I really don't think anything good will come of this post, especially since cryptagion is already banned and nobody he is trying to address (other than me) can see this or respond.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

I believe cryptagion is just trying to counter the bad faith disinfo being replicated in c/slop just in case anyone believes it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Cryptagion admitted to being very ill-informed and assumed 27 million was the number of Red Army soldiers killed, but the fact that he didn't bother to check and went straight for "they deserved it" and is encouraging others to post in other comms about how the soviets deserved being victims of the Nazis is clearly bad-faith behavior to begin with, no? If cryptagion actually wanted to clear his name, he could have just apologized and clarified by saying he only meant the Red Army (as horrendous as those views are regardless), but now he's doubling down and inviting needless drama.

It's your comm and your instance, so do what you like, obviously, but I genuinely can't imagine anything good coming from this. I like a lot of users here, and I'd rather Hex and dbzer0 not defederate because of that, but I can easily see this resulting in that.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As far as I can tell, cryptagion didn't encourage it, that person was planning to do it anyway. We agree that it would have probably been better to try to convince for a different course of action, but that's not really a huge failing.

Whats causing the friction here is people blowing it out of proportion, adding plenty of disinfo and end up calling cryptagion a "genocide denying groomer nazi" and then calling for a defed because of that. I can't fault crypt for feeling they need to respond to stuff like that

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I can't agree with the idea that offering suggestions doesn't constitute encouragement, but even beyond that, the friction comes from cryptagion's inflammatory behavior. There was one good instance of good-faith here, and it was when he apologized for misgendering me. Even after I made it clear that I didn't want to make this a big deal, in what I thought was the cleanest way, he doubled down and went for more personal attacks. The response to cryptagion's comments and behavior is because of his comments and behavior.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I am of the opinion that hostile or even toxic behaviour of someone does not excuse retaliating with disinfo like that. Yes cryptagion is a bit too much sometimes, and I do wish they could chill a bit, but they've literally blocked your whole instance so they don't have to interact with y'all, and hexbear still drove itself into a fury though nothing more than talking to each other in your own comm.

You always get people with more extreme opinions. Crypt apparently takes a very hard stance towards collaboration with nazis. That doesn't make them a nazi or a genocide denier. These are some downright bizarre takes which are nevertheless the standard take in c/slop

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

We can agree to disagree here, I'm not interested in letting this spiral. I've said everything I feel necessary to say here.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

That doesn’t make them a nazi or a genocide denier.

Man, he is literally in these comments denying the Nazi genocide of the Soviet Union and saying that every dead Soviet soldier deserved it for not surrendering to the Nazis.

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

The op is already uncivil and bad faith though

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago

This type of petty interpersonal drama between users on the local instance and users on remote instances is exactly why I stopped using my sh.itjust.works account. I have no idea what prompted this, and I don’t care to read the post in its entirety to find out, but a response like this reads as extremely childish and distinctly not the type of post or discourse I want to surround myself with on my local instance.

I don’t want to advocate for censoring anyone, but crypt, try to lock it the fuck up.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 2 months ago

As a stupid person on the internet, y'all are far too invested in the fake drama of stupid people on the internet

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has been [ 0 ] days since new stupid hexbear drama cropped up

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

there were no soviet civilians, merely innocent asian/eastern european souls that were held hostage by the soviet oligarchy

I'm going with YTA just based on this dumbass statement. Using your own logic there's no USA civilians, merely innocent souls that are held hostage by the American oligarchy (which is the kind of dumbass statement I would expect hexbears to make, but I digress)

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

So your justification is "yes, I was encouraging Nazi apologia, but it's ok because I was doing it to antagonise and troll people!"

Also, why do you write like the most insufferable wannabe Joss Whedon imaginable?

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[-] hatorade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's very funny that Hexbear was so mad at this they "threatened" to defed db0 over this. They won't do it, they just like to act all offended and tough and then not do anything.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

And Hexbear is still malding over this. They swear that this time db0 are actually Nazis and must be defederated. Even though they have said way worse.

They won't do it however because they like invading any posts we make about Tankies having no consistent ideology.

They'll never forgive you for being funny.

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