Sometimes I wonder whether all this "security awareness training" has any effect at all.
Seconding the thread of folks being like, "I gotta do the training anyway so fuck it," BUT I did think it was very funny that frequently after sending out a phishing test or whatever, this would be followed up with an email requesting the security training, and invariably a bunch of people would report THAT.
I had a coworker that had the best strategy about phiahing emails.
He just never read his emails.
Sometimes I wonder whether all this "security awareness training" has any effect at all.
Nope lol.
My org sends out phishing tests randomly. I used to report every single one and have never clicked on any. But we all have to take the stupid training regardless of whether we successfully detect/report them or not. So I've just stopped reporting them since there's no incentive whatsoever.
I came to say the same thing
I reported the test phish (the only phish we ever got) and laughed at coworkers who had to take the training only to turn around and see I needed to take it too
Yep.
Most of them are phishing test emails (where the org sends out fake "phishing" emails which have a UUID link tied to your email address) so they KNOW who clicks on these and who reports them. Until I stopped giving a fuck, I had reported 100% of them and clicked on 0. But since that doesn't let you "test out" of the 45 minute quarterly security awareness training, I stopped wasting my time and just delete them
About 9 years ago I wrote a script that looked for links to domains registered to wombat (the company that most companies seem to use for phishing simulation) and would autoreport and delete them. So just never saw them.
Still had to do the training. Every six months.
One of my former managers had this habit of setting up email rules for known phishing simulation domains whenever he started somewhere new.
Microsoft domains listed in a table here for anyone else unfortunate enough to have to use their products within your org.
You say that but do you have any objective data?
I'd love to see studies of phishing success in orgs that do vs. do not have regular trainings.
I bet it works like PSA advertising. It's stuff everyone should know and 98% of people already do. But it also helps keep the issues closer to conscious awareness and is actually educational for the 2%
There is a 2025 study that was widely reported:
In summary, our results confirm the ineffectiveness of current phishing training approaches while offering a refined study design for future work.
It is compliance theater.
My work literally just says "report it to it" no other instructions. Like, do we put in a ticket? Email the entire group? Send a teams message? Walk over there and start talking about how its weird that the CEO wants my specific login to help him with his major issue? We have SOPs that out line every specific step you take so anyone can just blindly follow and do it, yet there's not even a statement on how they want it reported.
I forwarded the one phishing attempt I received before we were warned, and there was zero response from them. So I'll just continue deleting them and moving on with my day.
I did a security class for all our employees. 25% failure rate before, 6% after. Also, I dropped a booby trapped thumb drive by the printer. It sat there for 4 days until someone put it on the table.
If training isn't working that's because it's boring as shit and people aren't engaged.
sometimes the report button doesn't show up on Outlook at my job :(
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