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submitted 6 months ago by j4k3@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Also, is self empathy even a thing? Is self empathy distinct from self pity?

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[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

Is self empathy distinct from self pity?

Absolutely.

Pity is when I wallow in how unfair everything is to me.

Empathy is when I realize I genuinely got dealt a shit hand, then give myself some time to recover, and then get on with life.

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

Lots of folks replying don't seem believe in self empathy.

That makes me sad.

Self empathy is the foundation of empathy toward others.

The golden rule - treat others as I want to be treated - only really became effective, for my friends, after I learned to treat myself well.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think it is more complicated than this. I agree with you to a certain extent. Maybe it is mild autism or something but my sense of internal perceptive judgement is about like an extra internal entity compared to how most people seem to perceive the world. I do not see myself as an exceptional case or prioritize myself within the framework of self perceived justice. I ultimately care more about that justice than about myself as a person and I will act against my best interests to do what I perceive as right. Within this pseudo entity there isn't consideration for how anyone feels, especially myself. There is right, wrong, and nothing else. I do not care about the emotions at all in that space.

So when you say "treat others as you want to be treated," that falls into the scope of this pseudo entity and it just seems super silly to say. Like, of course I will treat you exactly the same as I treat myself, but I will not be emotionally caring or aware as that has nothing to do with objective right and wrong.

To me, emotions are a separate thing, and an area where I have far less depth. My empathy comes from my own hardships and insights projected onto others and a desire to be a positive overall influence on those I interact with. I cannot fix other people, I can only fix me, so I want to be the change I want to see in the world. I want to do right by you. I want to be supportive when I have none. I want you to be happier than me. I do this not out of reciprocal self interest, but out of a distaste for a harsh and cruel world where the only variable within my control is me. I only worry about the things I can change.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I absolutely have self empathy that is somewhat distinct from self pity. Though, that might be from being autistic considering I'm also the type to love to self deprecate myself by calling myself r*tarded and stupid in a joking and/or non-serious manner.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Me and myself get empathetic with each other all the time.

[-] callyral@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

present me is the chad and past me is the soykak

[-] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Why would I? He's never done anything for me.

I try. I find myself even harsher on my mistakes and less proud of my accomplishments given current politics and policy keeps me busier than I'd prefer, but I try my best to see what I do in a more positive light.

Small steps.

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Perhaps self-directed compassion would be a better fitting term?

Empathy is about feeling what others feel, where compassion is usually associated with acts of showing kindness. As another commenter has mentioned, being reminded to be nice to yourself in a situation can be important.

[-] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes. When I refelct on the past me I feel certain ways towards myself. It may make feel sad because I was hurt, get angry because I feel like I was treated unjust or pround because I achieved a certain thing.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

I do not. It's much easier to be generous towards others than myself.

[-] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

Self empathy is an oxymoron since empathy is about others by definition. As another said, emotional intelligence seems like a better fit.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In abstract, your former self is a different person. You have changed as a product of your environment and you will never again be that person you were in the past.

Emotional intelligence lacks any meaningful specificity and comes across to me as an insult, which is the antithesis of the intent of he post question. Semantics often lack substantive utility, especially within the subject of psychology.

Sorry for another waste of time thing to explore here on Lemmy. I always end up regretting and then deleting this type of good faith post.

[-] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

What waste of time? Are we not just discussing here? Is that what you would've said to me if we were talking face to face?

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