What absolute moron is running that school district?
The worst part is he doesn't even like sports!
It really sounds like somebody in the Queen Creek School District wanted to make a political issue out of him. Presumably, as cited in the article, the state law they pointed to enacted in 2022, which mandates that school sports teams must be designated “based on the biological sex of the students who participate” in the sport. It doesn't matter where you are in the political aisle, it's pretty shameless to exploit this politically, even if it's just so they can go "look at how senseless this law is!" by making an issue out of its strictest interpretation.
i think sport, exspecially in schools, should always be mixed. Also i think the competetivness of american school sport is kind of toxic, it should be about having fun
I don't know how American birth certificates work. Is he officially female for life, unless he wants it changed?
I imagine trans people would be quite happy in such a situation. Like winning the lottery.
From the article it sounds like the birth certificate was corrected but the school isn’t accepting the change without a chromosome test, which costs $1,500. There’s another test that they could do that’s free, slightly embarrassing, and takes just a moment, but would require an adult to look when the kid drops his pants. It’s such a stupid non-issue. I can’t believe this happened, that we know about it, and that it hasn’t been resolved yet.
That wouldn't work. Conservatives needed to write iron-clad laws that no trans person could find a way around. If you base it on genitals, what happens when someone goes and gets sex reassignment surgery? That's not done on minors, but conservatives don't know that. How's a school coach to know that he isn't a trans guy that snuck off to Thailand one summer and got a dick installed? This is why these laws reference the original birth certificate. The entire point is to make it so sex is immutable and unchangeable.
This is what doctor's notes are for. And they had one.
These laws were written to hurt trans people. They were written to make it very difficult for trans people to find loopholes to get around. That is the problem here.
Let's say the errors on sex could be corrected with a doctor's note. But what you're really asking for is for a sex marker to be changed, simply citing an error in original sex assignment. You are going to plead that your real sex is unmatched to your documented marker. But what is sex? "Sex" is a very fuzzy thing. Is it genetics? Genitals? Chromosomes? Secondary sex characteristics? Conservatives like chromosomes because their inalterability serves the conservative worldview. But historically we used primary and secondary sex characteristics to define sex. We talked about "male" and "female" since the dawn of time, but we've known about chromosomes for less than a century. Historically, your sex was simply your observable physical form. If you alter that, in a very real sense you do change your biological sex. There are many interpretations of the word "sex" and the phrase "biological sex." Some allow them to be changed, some not. And, wherever you fall on that question personally, you can find doctors who follow any of the possible definitions of the terms.
In fact, in states that allow you to change your sex on your birth certificate, traditionally this is how it was done. The state would require a letter from a physician saying your biological sex has been changed. Some states specifically required surgery. Some just left it up to the doctor's interpretation. If you could convince a doctor that you had changed your sex, then your sex could be legally changed.
And this is the problem. You would think you could correct this error with a doctor's note. But the Republicans already thought of that. This cis kid could use a doctor's note to prove that he's biologically male. A trans kid could use that exact same mechanism to get a doctor to say that their sex is now male. Just find a doctor that believes that sex is largely hormonal. A trans boy gets on T, and, in that doctor's eyes, their sex has now literally been changed. And they could write a letter to that effect. And the doctor wouldn't have to lie at all. It all comes down to your interpretation of "sex."
These laws were written to hurt trans people. To do this, they needed sex to be legally defined in a very strict and unalterable way. They wanted to make the process so ironclad that no trans person could ever weasel their way past them. Thus, they only allow corrections of birth certificates in some very specific ways that no trans person could use. They don't just leave it up to a licensed doctor. Licensed doctors are the ones providing medical care to trans people. The laws instead require things like chromosomal testing. Chromosomes are one thing that can't be changed. If you require chromosomal testing to correct an error on an original birth certificate, then you can make it virtually impossible for a trans person to change theirs. But it does have the slight downside of making it very expensive to correct actual clerical errors.
And this will be true regardless of how you want to screen for original biological sex. The tall and strong gate will make it hard for your enemy to pass. But it will also make it difficult to let in a friend that gets accidentally trapped outside in the night.
- why tf does a school ask for a birth certificate
- why tf would parents give that
- why tf did the parents not see the error in the birth certificate?
My take: school asking for the certificate? Wrong. Now that they have it, they are reacting legally correct, because that birth certificate is a legal document. Sucks for the boy, but the fault is 100% the parents.
~~logic~~
Could always just not play.
Could have just not commented
While I do agree (much to the dismay of many of you all here) that it is absolutely unfair to biological women to allow non biological women in competitive sports, due to the advantages that can't go away by chemical means such as larger lungs, longer arms, and bigger hands with more stable hip bones; if I were this kid, who is apparently quite strong and athletic, I would try and have loads of fun screwing with the system they're forcing upon him. He could really screw with them on policies. I'd imagine he could get loads of classmates to go along with helping him out, too.
The idea that women need “protection” from competing with men was always more about control than it ever was about fairness. The argument of women somehow being physically worse at sports is just not accurate in many cases. Actually there are a lot of sports in which women have an inherent advantage over men.
Yes, men on average have higher bone density, greater muscle mass and larger lung capacity. However women tend to on average have a more efficient fat metabolism, better cold tolerance, a lower center of gravity, higher flexibility and more stable fine motor control. Also some people tend to beat the odds and win despite supposedly being at a disadvantage.
It's fine to disagree with us here, but you also "disagree" with everyone who knows anything about the subject, and that is why your head is stuck so far up your own asshole.
Seems like I know plenty about the subject. To the point where all you can do is try and sling insults instead of forming any sort of argument.
This information is readily available. You decided that instead of listening to the IOC or physiologists you'd stick your head WAY up inside your own rectum. It's not my job to pull it out.
But it is fun to point and laugh. 😉
The physiologists agree with me, buddy.
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