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[-] Two_Hangmen@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago

The median price of a home in the U.S. is about $460,000.

Let's say by some miracle someone is able to put 20% down to avoid PMI so the cost is now $368,000. On a 7% 30 year loan your monthly payments will be $2,448/month.

So if those darn Gen Z would stop spending $80, literally every day, at Starbucks, they could afford a home.

People that say shit like this are wealthy enough to be completely out of touch with reality.

[-] princess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

it's one latte, michael. what could it cost, $80?

[-] Lon3star@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's also without escrow for taxes and insurance (some, not all states)

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 12 points 1 month ago

This would have been a completely out of touch thing to say 10 years ago.

To be saying it today is a choice. It's willing and malicious. She's just provoking people deliberately because the response is what she's after.

Ignore her

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Or maybe it's virtue signaling to peers/investors rather than punching down for the sake of agitating the poors. Regardless, it's definitely somewhere between sociopathic and malicious.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

Truly. Like, I got very lucky and own a home. There is no way in hell I could afford this market and I make double what I did when I bought this house.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

CEO of a company that is actively making it harder for people to afford housing.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

These jokes write themselves.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree that buying your first home takes some sacrifices. But the sacrifices even 20 years ago were significantly less than they are now, let alone 40 or more years ago. I would hope that someone in her position would understand that it's not about saving $5 or $10 a day on Starbucks, or even buying a cheaper phone. The disparity between income and home price is just completely different.

Median household income in the US in 1980: $21000
Median home price: ~~$47000 (2x)~~
Edit: $62000 (3x) is probably more accurate.

Median household income in the US in 2000: $42000
Median home price: $163000 (4x)

Median household income in the US in 2020: $67000
Median home price: $327000 (5x)

It doesn't take a genius to see the discrepancy here. That's a lot of fucking Starbucks coffees to not buy to make up the difference.

Note: I'm using US numbers because of the context.

[-] aeiou_ckr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not disagreeing with the numbers but could you provide your source? I would like to use this next time my family says a house is cheap/good deal ($500k for 2b 2b in the sticks).

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I want to punch every rich motherfucker who blames it on coffee purchases in the neck.

[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Holy shit that was tough to finish that article. There are so many quotes from this idiot that are just fucking nonsense. Here are my top three:

“It is just as tough,” Liebman exclusively tells Fortune. “Back then, it was more difficult in some ways because you had less neighborhoods that people would live.”

Plus, she says, never has there been more opportunity at young people’s fingertips—not just when it comes to inventory on the market: “If you’re not afraid to show off your skill set, and you try and find yourself an opportunity where you’re going to be appreciated and where people are going to allow you to expand your horizons and hopefully add value to the company that you’re at, I think it’s an unbelievable time.”

“It’s not that expensive,” she adds. “So if you’re willing to move around, which people are now, I think that there are definitely opportunities out there… You’re going to secure a much, much less expensive apartment than if you are insistent on being in the West Village.”

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

When they show you how stupid they are, believe it and remember it. The myth of meritocracy has to die.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

47 year old here.

Shut the fuck up you lying shit.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 month ago
[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have no idea who this person is nor why I would possibly give a shit what she has to say about anything.

Okay

shorts SBUX

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah.. I read the entire article, SOME of what she's said isn't too off the mark.. Starting out with roomates and scrimping at first.. but crabbing that someone buys coffee? Seriously?

Naah sis, you're missing the main point.. and that is percentages of income needed to get into a home today are multiples of what they were when you were starting out. Fuck that shit. Also, housing stocks were better and it had less to do with the number of units on the market, but that the market wasn't dominated by equity firms and REITs.

My biggest beef with housing was once they put the "no money down" equation into the mix, the prices soared.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

The coffee thing is a shortcut for saying, "Stop buying stupid shit."

$10/day is a $300/month habit. That's significant.

Still, not listening to the rich tell the rest of us how to navigate the world they fucked up.

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

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[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I haven’t had a drip of Starbucks coffee in my entire life

[-] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's ok for the drinks they make where coffee is just one of several flavors. It's trash on its own though.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Coffee is not the problem, CEOs are

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Can someone make sure she’s already on the menu? Move her up the list a bit.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't buy Starbucks ever. Where's my home?

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Rich idiot says dumb shit is not news.

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

But money = smart, right? /s

[-] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 0 points 1 month ago

Stop buying everything. Trade shit. Food? Ok, buy that and nothing else. Let it all burn.

[-] potpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] DNS@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago

I try to sell my excess produce below grocery store pricing, but people at the meet ups always tell me how they dont have enough money or got no money, if I can give it to them for free.

Now I just give it to a food bank

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Acquire food from supermarkets and then leave. They just leave it sitting around all over the place, in there!

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