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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago

Eh. This depends on the job being done. In my field of work the only thing that matters is that you get the job done. What office hours you keep are not very important. On the other hand, my friend works shift work where he has to replace someone directing a process (think air traffic control). Being 10 minutes late is a dick move because you are forcing the person you are replacing to stay longer at the end of a shift.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago

Then shifts should have an overlap.

I know they don't and won't, but there's no good reason not to do it, except that the company would make a bit less money.

[-] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Depends on how things are run. My wife works at the hospital and works 12 hour shifts, rotating days and nights. You’re expected to show up 15 mins early so the previous shift can hand off their patients to you.

I’m not sure how you’d do 12 hour shifts with overlap unless the overlap was considerable or shift times were all over the place. The hospital here gets a certain budget and it makes sense to have it running as optimal and efficient as possible. You also get paid from punch in to punch out so coming in early gets you paid more. Realistically her shifts are 12 hours 15 mins.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

But then your wife should be scheduled and paid for 12.25 hour shifts.

[-] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

She gets paid for it, it’s just not on the schedule. There’s no unpaid labour at her work.

[-] Arcka@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

By listing a schedule starting at one time, but expecting the actual start to be earlier they're communicating an inaccurate schedule.

Could you imagine prescribing one dose but expecting another? Billing one amount but expecting a premium on top of that?

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[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago

So many well-intentioned posts in here are licking the boot. Traffic happens. IBS happens. Children emergencies happen. The company should shoulder the cost of contingencies to account for natural human fluctuation. If the job is mission critical, why are you demanding humans be robots?

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Exceptions are ok. But what if someone is 10 minutes late every single time?

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

What consequences does their being late have for the business?

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[-] Jaybird@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Do they minder if i stay longer? No? Then why complain when I'm late?

Its about the whole picture, am I always late? Is my work done on time and well executed ?

If so... WHO CARES ABOUT THE TIME OR PLACE I DO THAT WORK IN????

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

If it's shift work and someone is waiting on you then arrive so they can go home or start to work and a team its a big deal cause you're wasting someone elses time.

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[-] Lenny@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago

Betty can show up ‘on time’ and spend 40 min making coffee and shit talking with her neighbors, but I show up 10 min late and start working right away but I’m the bad employee somehow.

[-] Shirasho@lemmings.world 15 points 1 month ago

Ive come to learn that employers are not paying you for your labor but for your time. They care more about your availability than how much you actually work. It is also why how hard you work never factors into how much you get paid.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Ive come to learn that employers are not paying you for your labor but for your time.

Commuting time should be salaried.

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[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

It definitely depends on the job. I work in TV and live events. If your late you either miss the pre production meeting, or we all have to wait for you to start. If your later than that you are holding the team up and making people work harder to be ready by on-air time.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah. It definitely depends on the job.

If you're relieving someone, they might be annoyed if you're late but nobody is going to die or anything. If your work isn't extremely time sensitive, nobody should give a fuck...

If things can't go because you're not there, and it's very time sensitive, then there's a problem. Everyone is waiting on your ass to show up.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can see it mattering if it's shift work and someone else has to stay late. If it's office work? Nah. Doesn't matter.

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[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 23 points 1 month ago

I recently did an essay on intergenerational work ethics for uni this semester. Basically, every generation except for Boomers don't care about being on time when compared to giving quality output.

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[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Really depends what you are 10 minutes late for. A meeting with other participants, ok if your role is to sit and listen. Not OK if people are waiting for you to start. It's not OK to be late to relieve a co worker either

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago

Unless it's shift work, yeah. What's the problem otherwise?

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[-] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Mid-millenial, elder millennial for a boss. Start time within half an hour of listed time is accepted practice. Things get done on time, nobody complains about staying ten or fifteen extra to properly wrap up a task. It's very refreshing after years of the boomer song and dance.

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[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Stay late 10 minutes: that's as good as leaving on time. I can't be expected to pay you more.

Arrive 10 minutes late: how could you? 10 minutes of my time is an eternity!

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Gen X reporting.

Be like Gandalf. Fuck all that other noise.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

I wasn't going to do anything productive in that first 10 minutes anyway, so...

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

10 mins late to an office job where they get their 10m back, AOK.

10 mins late to cashier/sales gig where you're relieving someone else, not great.

10 mins late to a meeting is bad

10 mins late to class is bad.

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[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
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[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I just have unmedicated adhd and poor time management, i'm 10 minutes late for everything, i'll be late to my own funeral, I'm a millenial or whatever

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Like most statements about work, it really depends on the job.

For shift work without overlapping shifts, being late keeps someone else on duty after their shift is up.

But if you're working an office gig and your work is getting done, it's fine. There's a reason I don't schedule any meetings within an hour of the start or end of the day.

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[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

My job doesn't care if I'm late, and my productivity has not changed

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago

Keep pretending to pay a fair wage and I'll pretend to give a shit about being on time.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Okay kids, this is what we call, micro management leading to a hostile work environment.

I don't think I've worked for a company that gave a shit if I was 10 minutes late.

One company had a time clock that only kept time records to one decimal place of an hour. The clock literally couldn't differentiate between someone clocking in 5 minutes early, or 5 minutes late.

Anyone who cares about how trivially late you are, isn't someone worthy of your labor.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It depends on the job. Sometimes coverage matters, sometimes specific times really matter for outcomes.

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[-] rockettaco37@feddit.nu 8 points 1 month ago

Honestly, if I get the job done and do it to spec, managers can shut the fuck up.

[-] proctor1432@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You ever ran late to a college class because you had to stay longer than scheduled at your shitty retail job to cover your perpetually late coworker who was supposed to relieve you?

Sometimes running 10 minutes late is no big deal, but sometimes it is. It becomes a problem the moment it causes someone else problems.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

African American obviously in a hurry to go somewhere

"This lazy asshole thinks being late to the office is acceptable"

Sorry, feels like my eardrums just burst. Did someone blow a dog whistle really loudly?

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[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

I'm gen x and I believe this.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Elder Millennial, I was almost an hour late for work yesterday, I walked in and made no apologies. Today it was only 11 minutes so I quickly got some candy to reward myself. Tomorrow's not looking great,

[-] jagungal@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Depends on the situation. Meeting up with friends? I wouldn't blink at them being 10 minutes late. Opening shift at a cafe? 10 minutes would put me so far behind I'd be in big trouble.

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[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

No, 98%

10 minutes is about 2 percent of an eight hour workday.

[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Fuck those companies. They should be grateful I even sent my resume to their corrupted pile of shit of a company

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Is this post serious or just making shit up? Ive never heard anyone claim that 10 minutes late is on time. Late and on time are mutually exclusive words. Whether your work punishes it or not is a different question, im permitted to be 5 minutes late and it counts as on time for example.

This seems more like a post designed to piss people off and make them fight over a position noone had before reading it.

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