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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

See also, this:

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

From personal experience...

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

its technically possible to spoof a vm to run it.

[-] Kaigyo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Real talk, Fortnite is the only remaining reason I still dual boot into Windows.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

They won't support Linux unless they have to. As long as people decide to play along with them then they'll continue to not support it. If you give up this game then eventually Linux will be supported.

In my opinion, every game worth playing supports Linux. There are way too many games that I don't have time to play them, so I'll play the ones that respect their customer's choices. I'll ignore the ones that require us to install malware —whether that's kernel level anti-cheat or Windows.

[-] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

AFAIK, Epic hasn't enabled anti cheat to work on Linux. Their own anti cheat has native support for Linux, but they themselves don't want to use it.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

And this is precisely why I won't bother with the game, they made a conscious choice to exclude Linux when not doing that costs them practically nothing

[-] Qwel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, the issue is that their anti cheat requires a level of control of your computer that Linux doesn't allow. They could just lower the security, but they instead decided that nobody on Linux could play, apparently thinking that the losses due to cheating would be more than the revenue of 3% more users

[-] numanair@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm surprised I don't see more discussion here of Apex Legends and how it had Linux support removed!

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just play on your phone...

[-] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

minecraft bedrock was the only reason i am dual booting windows but thankfilly thanks to a blessing from a god, i wont be needing it for long

[-] SteveTech@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

You can also play the Android release fine with Waydroid.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

You can play the android version in desktop mode with the Unofficial *nix Launcher.

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl -1 points 3 weeks ago

shouldve been the other way around. who still plays fortnite

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

People want validation not advice, even if that advice could fix their problem.

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

I get it. I hate a lot of things about Windows, but switching to Linux would prevent me from playing some games that I would want to play, and that trade-off is not worth it to me.

[-] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

You can consider dual boot? I use Windows to play games only and use Linux for other things that need the computer

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

I expect that there would be some switching cost every time I switch OS (such as the time to reboot and/or the mental adjustment to the interface) and gaming is the majority of what I do on my PC.

So, I don't think it would be worth it if I used Windows for all gaming still. But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.

That's the way. I started this way too, and as I got more comfortable well, my Windows partition hasn't been booted for a couple years now because OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has run all my games beautifully.

Vermintide II even stopped crashing the entire system when I used Linux instead of Windows! On Nvidia BTW.

Even though sometimes it feels like I might be missing out on playing some of the newest hypey-est multiplayer games, I also remind myself that I don't want something on my computer like the new Battlefield's or Riot Games' incredibly creepy and invasive anticheat, no matter the OS!

... Plus, I got like a thousand games to enjoy anyway. Maybe you'll feel the same, idk?

I will say though, Linux starts to just feel fun to compute on. It feels like a machine that's yours instead of some licensed appliance. I missed that feeling from the really old Windows days when it was fun.

Do a little exploring, but picking a distro with KDE should feel at home really quick coming from Windows. :)

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

Well, my choice of game is influenced a lot by what my friends want to play as well, and we tend to cycle through various games at different times. So I'd want to have the ability to play whatever they want to play. We have been playing Battlefield 6 a fair amount recently, so that one would require Windows.

Helldivers 2 works on Linux but we've basically retired that for now because of some scummy behavior by the devs. I have hopes that it will come back, but it has a bad taste for now.

Probably most of the other games we play would work (since most of them don't have over the top anticheat). I haven't checked all of them, though. It's hard to know how often I would run across one that doesn't work.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know what the Helldivers devs did, but you don't think it's scummy that BF6 requires malware, like Windows and kerbel level anti-cheat?

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

Regardless of how you see those things or what they actually do, it's basically certain that the developers do not see them as malware. And I think it's reasonable to assume good intentions in making those choices, because it is a PvP game where cheating can negatively impact other players. I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.

Many of the things that the Helldivers 2 devs have done could be excused with the benefit of the doubt as well, but they have stacked up a lot of broken promises, and recently there was a case of very blatant deception. It could be argued that it was not technically lying, but it was obviously intended to deceive. And there has been no apology for the deception since then, either.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.

The developers are rarely the ones making the choice. I do give them the benefit of the doubt, but it's been shown it doesn't actually prevent cheating and you're refusing to let your customers choose how they play. They get the benefit of the doubt that they're honestly trying to prevent cheaters, but not that it's a purely benevolent decision towards customers. It's a trade off, and the option they're taking is bad for consumers and isn't effective anyway.

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

For what it's worth, cheating in BF6 seems pretty rare. So, it seems that something they're doing is having an effect at reducing cheating. There are probably other methods that they could use, though.

I'm guessing that their decision ultimately comes down to money - they probably figure that other methods would be more expensive to achieve the same result, and that the lost revenue from people who are turned off by the anti cheat is less than that cost.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Cheating in ARC Raiders also seems very rare —and it's ahead of BF6 now in players.

There's two issues. Cheating in general is pretty uncommon, though it has an enlarged impact on players in games with high skill, lower player count, high information. Counter Strike, for example, it's easy to tell when something feels off, so it's easier to detect cheating. The upset it causes people also has a re-enforcment factor that makes it feel more common.

Meanwhile in BF, with tons of players all around, sprinting full speed, and low information, it's hard to know if someone is cheating. Was it luck or skill, or did they have ESP and saw you through the wall? The chaos hides cheats. However, I saw day 1 that cheats were active and working in game. They're there, but they're a lot more invisible.

For example, I play Squad. In Squad you build FOBs where players respawn. There's a type of cheating (doesn't require hacks) called "ghosting" where you have a player on the other team who gives information about where FOBs are, for example, so you can destroy them. It's almost impossible to detect. Any ghosting that happens could just as easily be luck/skill, and more often than not is. You could assume there's no cheating happening. It is rare there, but it isn't zero. There's no Kernel level anti-cheat (for Linux at least).

I'm guessing that their decision ultimately comes down to money - they probably figure that other methods would be more expensive to achieve the same result, and that the lost revenue from people who are turned off by the anti cheat is less than that cost.

Yes, it's executuves making a short-term purely financial decision. It's also probably not even the wrong one with those factors in mind. However, it does long-term damage to your reputation. The devs who build for Linux get praised for supporting customer choice. The ones who push kernel level AC get roasted for it. Sure, it's doing fine now, but will they have lower revenue in 5-10 years because of it?

Regardless, I personally think it's bad, and as such refuse to support them. I also choose to spend time and effort pointing out the issues to people so they can decide it's a bad choice in the future.

[-] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not particularly interested in ARC Raiders because I don't like the chaos of FFA (or more than 2 teams in general).

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I get it, but you'd be surprised how friendly people can be there. Especially solo, it's like a 90+% chance people just work together.

I didn't mention it to recommend it though, only to point out that it probably isn't their AC that is (creating the illusion of) preventing cheaters.

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[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 3 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve always been a very fond gamer.

But W11 as an OS, the state surveillance style telemetry and some other recent developments surrounding MS made me largely ditch gaming in favour of Linux. I mean sure I’ll play a game here n there but I don’t feel like investing hours of my days into the next “big thing” anymore. Linux is where it’s at.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why'd you have to ditch gaming? I play games all the time on Linux. Steam works just fine.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Should have worded that differently.

-W11 sucks so much I was gonna move to Linux regardless and that happens to coincide with a time in my life where I want to waste less time playing games.

Steam has done something amazing, I hope GOG follows at some point.

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

GOG works great by using Heroic Launcher or Lutris.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was in this camp until I actually have win11 a try. Now i my computer is super slow and all my games run like ass and I've spent hours trying to troubleshoot how to fix these issues and I legitimately believe that it would just be simpler to move to Linux because at least with Linux nobody is actively trying to prevent me from being able to fix any performance issues that arise.

[-] Qwel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This does not mean that any performance issue that arise will be fixable (unless you're one of those guys)

But yes, this is how I ended up using Linux. I spent weeks trying to fix a major visual glitch on Windows, and Debian got it right the first time. The app store sucked (even more than now), but installing things in cli was far easier than using Windows

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You don't even have to install it to try it out, just boot from USB into live mode.

[-] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's actually a great feature. Not suggested near enough. Unfortunately, as easy as it is, it's still well above the average user who just wants to open a browser and check their web page. I think average users need to be encouraged to just get help from a friend or a LUG, just like the late 90's and early 2000's for Windows.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

"Wdym I can't install linux from vscode extension store!"

[-] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't really "hate" windows, but I dislike it.

However I can't really move away from it.

I did so back in win 3.11 days, a while ago.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I am definitely somebody who watched the first video, but not the second.

[-] jimmux@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because you already switched, right? Right!?

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

With Windows or nah?

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