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Despite his "no" vote, the Senate deal to reopen the government bears Schumer’s fingerprints

Either Schumer no longer has effective control over own his caucus, or he has permitted the deal to progress with a wink and a nod behind the scenes — and with a strident disavowal for the bank of cameras he famously loves — while taking Democratic voters for fools.

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[-] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Democrats are honestly a bunch of fucking pussies at this point.

There's a literal fascist authoritarian wannabe in charge and where's the resistance? Christ, MTG is being more critical of Trump than they are.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's not cowardice, its calculated evil.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Democrats are controlled opposition, or they act exactly as controlled opposition would act.

We need to start judging them based on their actions and get rid of them at every chance possible.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

“At this point” implies there were not pussies at some point. The Democrats have always been cowards.

People keep forgetting it’s not left v right, it’s rich v poor. Democrat leaders are just playing their part.

[-] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

People always talked about age limits for elected office, I think the same holds true for wealth. You / your family worth $$$M/B no more government service for you. It will never happen, nice to dream I guess.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It is left vs right. To left is to be anti rich. To be right is to be pro rich.

[-] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Exactly. The American 2-party system is between right and alt-right.

[-] radieschen@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Resistance should be grassroots organized, please don't rely on the Democrats (or any political party) for that.

Don't waste any time mourning. Organize!

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Anyone quoting Joe Hill is all right by me.

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[-] hateisreality@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The blame was on the Republicans until Schumer decided to be a Nazi

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The entire DNC needs to go

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

It's just a structurally bad system. Disband parties, change the voting system to one that doesn't create a "vote against the other thing" dynamic (I like STAR voting) and fix campaign finance once and for all - the solutions exist but the ones in control would never allow them.

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[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Here is my bipartisan compromise and before you say anything and call me a centrist, hear me out:

Schumer and McConnel BOTH tied together and in cement shoes at the bottom of a deep sewage pond.

I know neither side gets much out of it at a glance but think of the implications and ROI.

[-] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 1 month ago

We could pay down a significant amount of the national debt just with ticket and PPV sales.

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[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

His whip voted yes. Either he can't even control his whip, or he orchestrated it.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

It’s the latter. Just magically the 8 that are retiring or aren’t up for reelection just manically all got together at the same time to do this? Right…

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, it isn't magic. They also had more pressure because of snap running out. Also, some of them, like Fetterman, always voted against the shutdown.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago
[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

What a collasal disappointment he has been.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He absolutely orchestrated it, the reason he is the minority leader in senate is because he has the connections and political capital to influence or even order the votes of his party. I am only somewhat curious if they knew he was going to back out and vote no to try to wash his hands of his own capitulation. It's wild because it signals he still thinks he has a future.

Schumer represents a weird kind of old-school political capital. Whereas Trump's power comes from a literal horde of orcs carrying weapons and flags, arguably an even older kind of power to wield, Schumer carries the Elder Conclave of Ancient Liberal Liches who delight in social parties and ritual and systems. If you've ever listened to the old-guard dems talking among each other it sounds like a Victorian-era socialite gathering, like aliens from another dimension. While wildly out-of-touch, the reason he has power is because this kind of thing appeals to older institutional bankers, elder community leaders, and people with old money.

Old money is the reason he still stands as the "head" of the Democratic party and I am actually unsure if efforts to unseat him will be successful for the same reasons that Trump and his warband face no consequences because their own political capital. Nobody wants to challenge the base. If you go against Trump you get people breaking into your house and shooting you, if you go against Schumer, you lose your 7-figure retirement and your vacation house on the beach. For many people with a lot to lose, either of these outcomes is equally terrifying.

[-] khepri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Every single elected democrat should be primaried from the left in 2028, full stop.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The leftists candidates are no longer the spoilers. The Democrats are spoiling it for leftists. The center is just gone.

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[-] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Does anyone know the strategy or play for doing this? I mean, this seams super weak on the surface. I do know that the timing or the next negotiations would be advantageous, but geesh, that the best they got?

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Elections are over. That was the stop gap. Now they have to reopen so people can get paid to go shopping for holiday season.

[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Ding ding fucking ding.

They did to the people suffering the shutdown what tRump did to the people who voted for him. Told them what they wanted to hear, that he was gonna help them, got their vote, then walked away. We were ready to help weather the storm for our communities over the holidays. All the dems had to do was keep the message unified and refuse to budge until they put back what they removed. Heaven forbid these rich fucks, who share the same airspace as us normies, potentially miss flights and their rich donors lose profits over the busiest travel period of the year.

Honestly, this would be the time for a general strike. We already did the legwork to help provide for those who would have gone without SNAP. Lots in my area set up little pantries at work, donated supplies to places catering to underprivileged families, and were ready to help neighbors over the holidays. None of that disappeared this week. I personally plan to refuse holiday shopping and continue giving what I can to food banks and local childcare facilities.

Unfortunately, we're too disorganized and too many are forced to live a tightrope between poverty and wage-slavery to really see this on a grand scale. Still, I'll be the change I want to see and not begrudge those without the means to do the same. Despite the govt. and their rich-cuck donors, we only really have us and our communities to rely on.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

This is a really good question and ive not heard a good answer.

Even schumer's stooges didn't really seem to know why they were doing it. 'It was the only deal' or 'it had gone on too long' are both non-answers.

There isn't really a good answer. They had the leverage (finally) and could have compelled something useful.

They get off on losing. I suspect some of them are beating off right now--the human suffering they have enabled must be intoxicating.

[-] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 month ago

That was the plan all along.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Huh, I wonder which Democratic member of the House or Senate said that

For Roginsky, a self-described establishment Democrat

Who?

Julie Roginsky, a longtime Democratic strategist, television commentator and author of the Salty Politics online newsletter.

Again, I agree Schumer should be replaced, but not in a heated coup that shakes up the Epstein investigation just in time for House Democrats to finally have enough votes to release the files.

I find it so very, very odd, that other than Ro Kahnna, there seem to be no House or Senate Democrats jumping on this bandwagon (including the actual progressives members who aren't owned by Peter Thiel).

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Chuck the Chuck.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sure he'll write a strong letter

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Now, Roginsky is “thoroughly disgusted,” she said. “I don’t understand why they would subject people to hunger and to layoffs and to flight delays and to missed paychecks for the past 40 days, if only to get nothing out of it now.”

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Schumer, who was the target of near-universal vitriol among Democrats in March when he backed down in a budget battle that threatened to evolve into a shutdown, was quick to announce his opposition to the deal and he voted against it Monday night.

But in fact, his fingerprints are all over it.

Get rid of this useless piece of shit, Schumer needs to be in a nursing home.

[-] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Take the other traitor fucks there with him.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I hope we're talking about an underfunded nursing home or something , because these traitorous pieces of shit don't deserve basic decency. you have to give that to receive it.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

needs to be in a nursing home

Specifically, in the medicaid wing of a nursing home.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

An Andrew Cuomo-era nursing home.

[-] hateisreality@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Get rid of his weak Nazi appeasing ass...40 days for nothing

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

It's so fricking infuriating because, literally we were actually seeing the cracks form. Trump admin is violating the hatch act, pushing "dem's have shut down the government", and yet poll after poll shows the american people put the blame on the republicans. Trump was constantly boo'd to his face at the commanders game... and the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can't fathom a worse time to fold

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can't fathom a worse time to fold

That's your answer right there: the moment the election was over, they went back to screwing over the voters on behalf of their owner donors.

If the election had been a week from now, they'd have caved by Thanksgiving at the latest.

[-] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They saw Zohran win and decided the people had had enough fun, but it's time to put us back into our place before we get an ideas about making America better for the common person

[-] LucidiaDiamond@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Yup big daddy airplane was starting to get worried about thanksgiving.

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