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Debating the right to exist (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] duckythescientist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 2 weeks ago

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago

why is her hand so tiny in the second one

[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

perspective is hard

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 63 points 2 weeks ago

"I'd rather have my country die for me."
-James Joyce (as Stephen Dedalus)

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[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

This is why I hate it when people say stuff like “Do you support [state]’s right to exist?” No, no I don’t. I don’t think any state has a “right” to exist. People have a right to exist. A state is something different entirely.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago

Careful, you mention hating the state get everyone riled up. Conservatives, Liberals, Communists, all of them.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Conservatives, Liberals, Communists

Conservatives: "I want a state that exists to brutalize the third world on my behalf and cycle me through anxiety/relief of foreigners/BIPOCs on TV"

Liberals: "I want a state that will subtly extract value from the proletariat so I can gamble on it in the market and kill anyone who resists in an overseas black site."

Communists: "I want a state that will coordinate labor between sectors and preserve the civil rights of citizens under a well-organized and easily navigate-able proletarianized bureacracy."

Lemmy: "I hate these fucking Tankies."

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

Really, just about anybody that looks to historical examples to inform their perspective.

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[-] EmK@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, I wish I could upvote this more...

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[-] nomorebillboards@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In 100 years people are gonna look back on these 'phobes in the same way that we look back at slave owners... ignoring the fact that a lot of the 'phobes would probably be okay with modern slaves anyways.