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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by FinallyDebunked@slrpnk.net to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

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[-] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

So, I’m going to stick with Lemmy. But I did check out Reddit the other day out of curiosity. I was disappointed/envious over the many active posts in my former favorite subreddits, and realized how much I miss that level of engagement. At the same time, I was also appalled at how terrible their mobile site is. I couldn’t even read comments because of how terribly they were displayed.

Ultimately, I’m hoping that Lemmy catches up in some capacity. I refuse to go back to Reddit, but really do want that type of community discussion again.

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

I am really a hardcore against corporations and Reddit is the worse. So if Lemmy dies I am not going back to Reddit no matter what.

[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

My mobile app (Joey) still works for me. I think it's because I'm a moderator on a subreddit. I occasionally visit Reddit, but not nearly as much as I used to.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I have not had that experience. Reddit has more users than Lemmy, sure, but I went on Reddit literally yesterday and most of the content was trash. Lemmy has some trash, but a lot less than Reddit. A much bigger ratio of good:bad on Lemmy than Reddit has been my experience.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s what I noticed when I first gave Lemmy a try: significantly fewer users, but higher quality content overall.

[-] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There’s a closer knit community than Reddit due to the smaller size, and advertisements and paid agenda posts are few and far between. We have momentum and lot of potential- as long as Reddit keeps up the downward spiral, people will join lemmy and tell others about it. If you want to increase activity on lemmy, it starts with you! Remember to upvote and comment, and post something you found that was interesting, even if it’s to a community you don’t usually post to.

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[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't call what reddit is doing "thriving". The experience of what used to make Reddit, Reddit (the deep focused communities) is already quite decayed and has been decaying for some time.

Curate your Lemmy communities better and make an effort to interact as much as possible. Lemmy always feels super dead if you don't actively look for new communities and instances to subscribe to, because the Fediverse is inherently in a changing state of flux of where the activity is. Lemmy does not auto populate your feed with a bunch of algorithm crap, you have to MAKE it show you what you want. I've built up a nice list of 40+ subbed communities and see lots of content.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well said. And let's not forget the shitty power mods, ridiculous inconsistent arbitrary posting rules, shadow bans, and easily triggered hive mind that are all still on reddit.

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[-] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It's not dying. It's smaller for sure but a social network doesn't need to be big or have a ludicrous number of users to be healthy. Many of the posts I've made have gotten 10x more engagement than equivalent posts on Reddit simply because there's less for it to get lost among.

Personal opinion, but I think generally the users here are nicer and more chill than Reddit. Again, simply because the sheer number of trolls is lower and I don't think bother as much when there's less people to piss off

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Personal opinion, but I think generally the users here are nicer and more chill than Reddit.

That was my experience for a while. Then recently I got blocked by someone who kept downvoting me and getting mad because I didn’t think “kill all republicans” was a healthy way of thinking.

So…I guess like all social media it depends on where you go and with whom you engage.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

at least the blocking system doesn't silence you here. you can still say whatever you want in any thread you want.

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[-] Redsven@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I just went and read that exchange, and the person who blocked you never said what you claimed.

You went to an article about someone who stabbed a child 26 times after killing his mother and told people to be more understanding of republicans and not blame them for all the hatred they promote. You're suprised people got mad at you?

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[-] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Reddit is certainly busier. But is it better? Every time I peek back into Reddit I'm overwhelmed by ads and karma-farming reposts. Was it always that bad, or did I just not notice when I was immersed in it? Either way, I'm happier here.

[-] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I like lemmy way better. Never going back to reddit

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

fuck reddit

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[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really I think. Lemmy losing users in a slow manner may be true (probably is, if https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats is a representative site) but Reddit thriving, I'm not so sure. I'm only seeing that Reddit is in stagnation currently and I don't mean this in a negative way, it just didn't get new followers. If someone is more active on Reddit, please educate me about your experiences, because I'm only visiting just 1 subreddit basically for some minutes and that's all.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy losing users in a slow manner may be true

I think you see a clearer picture if you zoom out to before the spike in June: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=150 .

It’s a typical pattern for growing sites: there are sporadic spikes in new users, followed by a leveling-off where about half the new users are retained. So the trend over the past month isn’t a long-term decline, it's the tail end of the leveling-off phase.

[Edit: the above link doesn't work unless you manually remove the “amp;” to yield “https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=150”.]

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

That's absolutely true, actually, I think/hope in the same way as you do too.

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is bleeding users, but post and comment count is still growing. I think the multi account migrations have settled down and people are getting used to the new UI.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

If you're basing that off solely on the fediverse observer, that may be false. The "Average comments by day" graph is pretty misleading, since it actually shows all the comments that was made on Lemmy on each day. How do you perceive the density of the comments in practice?

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The “Average comments by day” graph is pretty misleading, since it actually shows all the comments that was made on Lemmy on each day.

I'm sorry, I don't follow. Don't all the comments made that day show an increase?

How do you perceive the density of the comments in practice?

I think it's great compared to what it used to be and just under what I'd like it to be. It's very subjective, but I think that was the question.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m sorry, I don’t follow. Don’t all the comments made that day show an increase?

That's correct and that is why it's misleading. The numbers are way too high to assume it refers to the daily comments only.

I think it’s great compared to what it used to be and just under what I’d like it to be. It’s very subjective, but I think that was the question.

Yeah it's pretty good, although I would like a bit more convo on nicher posts, but it's already amazing how active the Lemmy community is compared to it's userbase size.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That site doesn’t seem to show Lemmy losing users.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Check onto "Average Lemmy Active Users by Day" and observe the monthly active users. It's really subtle, but it's a loss.

[-] Rottcodd@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Personally, I think that Lemmy hit rock bottom relatively shortly after the main Reddit exodus in early July, and has steadily improved since. And more than anything else, I attribute that to users leaving.

The thing is that at least some significant part of the people who have left are people who couldn't or wouldn't appreciate the threadiverse for what it is and instead spent their time whining about the ways in which it isn't the same as Reddit.

And honestly, good riddance to them.

There are always going to be people who can and do appreciate the threadiverse for what it is. Those who are already here will stay and at least some of those who haven't discovered it yet will, and will move here. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

[-] indigojasper@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

i wouldn't know, i haven't been back to reddit

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

By now, it’s become a point of pride. I get annoyed when someone posts a link to reddit. I’m like “Come on. Just show me a screenshot. I’m not going to that cesspool.”

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[-] kux@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

if you want a 1:1 replacement for reddit like .world seems like it wants to be, cloning the interface (https://old.lemmy.world) and the subreddits (e.g. this one) then of course you you will find it lacking, it's the same thing but with only a fraction of the users. lemmy was not made for that, it was for disgruntled communists, you are on their turf

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[-] FinallyDebunked@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me prop up my complain. I look for an English community where I can ask questions about the language, and I found one. I put several questions there and have received zero answers in span of a month. Given that it is the largest such community here, I have no options as to turn to Reddit.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I’m sorry that happened, but that’s just one community. That’s not enough of a sample size to say anything about Lemmy.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The only subs that are active are memes, politics and technology subs, everything else is desert

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You should browse the All tab more.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, now I have more of an understanding. For broad, general, casual use (like the way I use Lemmy) things are better here. For narrow, specific subjects (like what you need) reddit can still have an edge.

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Which community? Remember, 1. Ask, 2. Ask someone who can help, 3. Ask until you get the answer you need.

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[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I really am missing the communities for specific games.

[-] Miclux@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

Isn't it?

Nope.

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You can leave

[-] FQQD@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

wouldn't say so

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