So an album full of covers of John Cage's 4 33.
I won't be listening to that.
It suggests that if AI companies unfairly exploit musicians’ intellectual property to train their generative AI models, the creative ecosystem will be wrecked and original music silenced.
I kind of disagree with this.
There may be less people making music when money is their main motivator. But there will still be people making music.
Maybe we will lose low effort artists but gain great music by passionate people.
I’m not a musician, but these protests are going to be completely ineffective.
I'm not a musician, but
Exactly.
‘Oh it’s ok, they’ll still do it for the of it despite being poor, I’ll still get my music.’
This sums up modern society so well. I don’t even think it’s ill intentioned, just that the Epstein class has convinced us that individualism is ok. Conveniently.
So you are telling me that in your ideal world only people that excel in their field should be compensated?
While also telling that musicians should make music just for the pure joy of it and not for living?
Bear in mind that most stars had a lowly start, by replacing entry level jobs with AI you will likely destroy a lot of potential.
My ideal world does not use money.
So how much work are you willing to do for free?
Is it that your ideal world does not use money, or you're the only one who can get paid?
As for me, since it begs the question, I was raised on Star Trek, so I too like the idea of an ideal world where money isn't needed. But I also have bills to pay, and I'm not ashamed to admit I would not work for free, because that would mean getting my lights and Net cut off, and losing my home. Some people do crazy things for their ideals, risking their very safety and lives. Like Greta Thunberg a month or two ago bringing humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people (or rather attempting to do that; she was caught, detained, and ridiculed by the Israelis for it). Most people wouldn't risk it though. But it's okay to talk about it online, but in real life? We all gotta pay the bills.
Musicians, too.
be realistic my friend.
Boards of canada did this on the last track of Geogaddi so that the total runtime of the album was 66:66 😎
Orange
Great message, but weird way to protest. What are the optics even?
so any silence in youtube videos is now a copyright violation.
Now that's a court case I'd actually watch closely. Sooner or later they'll run out of things to squeeze money from, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually tried this.
Someone is gonna time how long she pours and try to copyright it
Keep in mind, these businessmen only hate AI because it threatens their money.
so? other businessmen only like AI because it makes them money.
like it or not money is important in our society, even for artists.
How much do they need, though?
You people never factor this in. It's always an on-off switch in your minds.
Look into the future. They're not just protecting themselves. They are protesting in protection of all music artists.
So an extremely small percentage of them can have excessive wealth like paul?
Hard pass.
Many, many new artist haven't earned bupkis yet. And AI, would make it more difficult. So, zip it, dippy.
consider this. most musicians don't have [n]early as much money as Paul McCartney. Even Paul McCartney didn't have much money when he was starting out in the 60s.
Yeah, and they still make music.
Yeah, fuck musicians for wanting to make a living... They should all have a day job or just starve like all the greats... JFC, you people are just something...
Don't most artists, except a few already wealthy ones like Paul, make basically nothing on record sales and streaming?
AI can't do live performances, yet.
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