The difference between persuasion and manipulation is largely subjective.
You don’t need any charisma if you can alter motivation. As a behavior analyst nobody likes but everyone listens to.
If you’re trying to convince a child to wash their hands, does that count as manipulation? You’re essentially trying to persuade someone to do something they don’t want to do. Sure, the intention isn’t malicious, but the methods are clearly manipulative.
I think so, but its the difference between terrorist and freedom fighter. Same thing really just depends who's side youre on.
If you consider education to be manipulation then sure
It could be, but then it would mean manipulation is not always bad thing.
That term has some negative baggage. I think we need to use a neutral word l like persuasion or influencing when talking about situations that don’t involve malicious intent. The way I see it, all of these terms still involve the same kinds of tools and methods. More often than not, changing an emotion results in the desired action.
Manipulation is coercing someone to do something they wouldn't normally do, but it's for YOUR selfish benefit, not theirs.
Educating someone to do something that they wouldn't have otherwise done, is for THEIR OWN benefit & health & future prosperity.
Manipulation and coercion are different.
Manipulation is altering people’s motivations until they do the thing you want them to do even if they think it’s their idea in the end. This includes benign changes to environmental conditions. For example, making classroom A entirely analog and classroom B digital fun cracktopia. Some individuals are really rewarded by one or the other.
Now, I want to alter (change, not necessarily increase or decrease, this is subjective)the motivation to go to cracktopia specifically so i bring those conditions in line with classroom A, analog. The motivation will therefore be altered and reward will be signaled by some other thing. There is no overt punishment or coercion here, just altering of motivation.
Coercive control necessarily involves aversive items such as punishers or failure to withdraw aversive conditions such as holding a nose until a mouth opens. Or physical full hand-over-hand prompting. Might there be a reason that is acceptable for this? Yeah, some people need help with items of hygiene even into adulthood and even with years of intervention and therapy require physical assistance.
That is to say, both coercive control and manipulation without coercive control can work to the benefit or be extremely detrimental.
This doesn't work... It's like saying there is a fine line between strength and opening pickle jars
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