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[-] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Couldn't imagine why lmao

[-] Toes@ani.social 1 points 4 months ago

Heh, you know it’s bad when the OEMs are throwing shade.

[-] IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 months ago

Because Windows 11 shouldn't have been made in the first place, I can't find one reason why they couldn't just kept updating 10.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Beside greed, forcing people to use fully integrated AI. Cuz they know damn well that 90% of us will disable that shit like we did One Drive.

[-] IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Funny thing is I still don't know why they needed a new version of Windows for that, I mean 10 was already bloat they could have just shoved AI into it, as in the TPM 2.0 they could have just made a new 25H(whatever the fuck) version where you'd need to enable that on the motherboard.

[-] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 months ago

It's because Apple moved on from X. They skipped 9 just because they didn't want to be behind Apple.

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Wasn't the reason for skipping 9 to not break programs assuming “Windows 9” meant 95 / 98?

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[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago

10 had at least SOME good in it, at first i didnt want to move on from 7 but when i finally did it was okay. Everything i have heard about 11 is awful, and i wasnt very pleased with it myself either when i tried it at work, though i was able to mostly ignore it since it was just my work pc.

And now after switching to mint, idea of using 11 is preposterous.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Microsoft needs to be sued to allow for a Linux desktop Excel. Once that happens they would lose like half their market share to Linux.

[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

LibreOffice is good. While people don’t like learning new things, I found it does everything I could want.

I actually switched years ago because I didn’t want to pay for MS Office.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Sure its fine at home. But try getting an entire office to learn new spreadsheet software. They can barely handle when a new version of Excel is released.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Considering all of the comments saying that a big part of this is people not wanting to buy new computers and choosing linux because it will run on their old machine, I'd like to add insult to injury and say I built a new PC before Oct and windows was never even a consideration.

And despite it being my first Linux install I planned to play games on, everything went smoothly and I'd even say the "setting up the PC to my preference instead of the defaults" step was better because there wasn't a "figure out how to disable the shit ms really wants you to run for them" substep, or a "figure out what new shit ms added that I'll want to disable" discovery mode that, with win 10, lasted most of the time I was using it and included "figure out if a recent update reset settings to annoying defaults".

I bet this is why people are so vocal about switching to linux whenever there's another complaint about ms. It went way better than expected, like I was about to do something that would cause ongoing pain and frustration to get away from something even worse, but there's been nothing at all that has made me miss windows.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah. I built my PC two years back and Linux was the main idea for it. I'd used Linux on and off since 2007, and it's honestly been fine this entire time, with WINE and such only improving over time. I remember how baffled I was back in 2007 when I didn't have to install any drivers myself, everything just worked out of the box, even fucking printers.

This is the time of Windows Vista, where nothing worked.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I've got a logitech mouse but didn't want logitech's software on my machine, so I just used the mouse by plugging it in. Which worked, but I had no way of knowing the battery level until the mouse itself started blinking low power.

When I installed fedora, I was confused a bit because it had a system tray icon saying the battery was charging. I was thinking it thought it was a laptop until I realize it had just picked up the battery information from my mouse. A feature I had written off under windows just worked without me even considering it or needing to install software that was partly about using my hardware and partially about advertising more ways to get my money.

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[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

Linux for desktop. MacBook Air for my laptop, only because of Microsoft Office. Bought a cheap Office for Mac 2021 licence. Mac is also much better than Windows 11 too: responsive, Fast wake/sleep, no 20 minute reboots with mystery updates, no registry, no Powershell. If you can avoid Office documents and run an AMD GPU, anyone should be golden on Linux. NVidia is fine if you are comfortable with command line. Not really sure what Windows has going for it except inertia, but if your coasting, you are going downhill...

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Windows has the enterprise. What Fortune 500 company uses Linux on the desktop?

[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's a burning platform, and the future isn't bright. IT and security would love to get rid of Windows desktops, they are nightmare to manage and secure. Problem is legacy.

But who still uses native Windows Apps other than Office? Legacy apps are out there, but also being migrated to low code browser apps. Even Office is an web app and Microsoft has been converting their 'native' apps into browser containers. Point is that Almost everything runs on a web browser and that is what kids have been using in schools for nearly 10 years. To date, ChromeOS is widely used in some roles (contact center, some back office). Developers, graphics, video, marketing, executives, along with most sales often use Mac, and nearly every enterprise uses both Android and IPhone /iPad OS.

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[-] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I really don't see what more Windows has to offer than Linux other some shitty software that cannot be run on Linux (Looks at newer Office and Adobe). In that case I can just boot up a VM with black-flag Windows Pro on it.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago

I really don’t see what more Windows has to offer than Linux

Stability, updates management, built-in features (like window tiling), etc.

Source: using Linux exclusively for almost a year now.

[-] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Stability? Update management? Window tiling? What? Linux does have all of these things. In fact Linux is way more stable than Windows, has better update management. Mind you, it does depend on the distro and the amount of stability you want, but I have been running Debian servers for years and I hardly run into problems.

The only thing windows offers over Linux is gaming and a better UI. Even both of those are dwindling away. I hate the new windows 11 UI and most games work on Linux unless you require a rootkit for some anti cheat software.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago

Stability? Update management? Window tiling? What? Linux does have all of these things.

No.

In fact Linux is way more stable than Windows

I install Windows and forget about it. I install Linux and have to do all this, and then it still might do this or this.

Mind you, it does depend on the distro

Agreed.

and the amount of stability you want

I want all the stability.

but I have been running Debian servers for years and I hardly run into problems.

Not talking about servers.

But even then - at my last job we finally killed off a Windows Server that had an uptime of over 1000 days, just chugging along like a little trooper. At my previous-previous job I was responsible for the WinServer updates, every single one of them was getting monthly updates and reboots, didn't have a single issue in 7 years. It was just shy of 100 servers.

The only thing windows offers over Linux is gaming and a better UI. Even both of those are dwindling away. I hate the new windows 11 UI and most games work on Linux unless you require a rootkit for some anti cheat software.

Agreed. I have Garuda Linux installed on my gaming PC and only had minor issues with three titles. It's surprisingly frictionless.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The most frustrating part of running Linux for me is the experience can vary so much for each person, slight hardware differences can cause odd bugs that other people don't have, and solving them can be really time consuming because a fix that works for one distro or DE may not work on another.

I'm really happy that Bazzite seems to be gaining so much popularity as an actual windows replacement, because it makes it a lot easier to find fixes for problems if there's a huge community using the exact same distro.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Because 8 was garbage and people got rid of it as soon as possible. 10 was actually good, and 11 was barely a change functionally until they started messing with the ads push, and now they're shoving LLM bullshit in to justify their exorbitant expenditures on the half functional tech.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yep. I Kept 7 for as long as possible but had to upgrade so 10 was next. I wouldn’t move to 11 if support continued for 10.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

You probably know this, but for others who might not: MS is now allowing some/many/all (???) people to extend the security updates for Win10 for another year free of charge. You have to go into the Windows update area and click a button to accept. At least in the USA, this seems to be a somewhat newly available option, as it was there the last time someone asked me to look at their laptop to see if I could upgrade it to Win11.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

This article is trash, it mentions existing windows 10 features in windows 11 like it's a groundbreaking new technology.

Virtual desktops and clipboard manager? Cmon man we've been having that for years now

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Even slower than Windows 10? That's impressive...

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