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submitted 3 months ago by cm0002@mander.xyz to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world

Valve has been a big proponent of Linux gaming, and now the company is investing in Android support on Linux. It’s already possible to run Android in a Linux container through Waydroid, but Valve has developed a new fork – and it has officially named it Lepton.

Last month, news broke that Valve would soon support Android games on Steam. This was thanks to a sighting in Steam app changelogs for Walkabout Mini Golf, which added an APK file. The VR title is currently available on the Meta Quest (which runs on a custom version of Android), and may run through the Lepton compatibility layer for Valve’s upcoming Steam Frame VR headset, which runs the company’s Linux-based operating system, SteamOS.

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[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 26 points 3 months ago

I cannot possibly overstate how amazing this is, given everything else valve is doing to make compatibility layers for practically anything.

This can attack Meta's near-monopoly on VR incredibly effectively. All those games made for the Quest? Pop 'em on either your higher-power PC, or directly on the Steam Frame, and it just works, very low effort to port, and you can squeeze more performance out of them if you're playing tethered.

Want to use an Android app on your PC rather than your phone? Done. Linux suddenly becomes much more useful to you on its own.

Being able to run Windows applications on Linux was just the start of making Linux more usable, and giving people more choice as to what software to use, but this expands it to an even larger scale. Simultaneously, this could mean some developers make things for Android that they otherwise would have only made to run on Linux, meaning Android users get more (likely open-source) choices too.

There's a metric fuck ton of apps that I wish I could use on Linux, but are only easily run on Android directly. (Yes, I know Waydroid is a thing, but it's been a pain to set up and use for me and many others. Valve has been pretty good so far at making sure things "just work" as best they can.)

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

F*ck yesss, Waydroid for the lazy like me!

[-] MrLLM@ani.social 2 points 3 months ago

You can say fsck in the internet

Although, I’m not really sure fsck yesss is a valid syntax

[-] Ava@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

I feel like there was a missed opportunity to call it Androgynous or Androgynix.

[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Oh my god, I can't wait to spend 30,000 € on worthless coins inside of a click and wait game. Now on PC. I used to use the phone for that. 🥰

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You're completely missing the point of this. Oculus Quest uses an Android OS, which means every VR game released for Oculus Quest is an APK, which means there's a version of the game already optimized for a portable VR headset that can be run with Waydroid/Lepton. Valve is making the same move they did with the Deck, we can't convince studios to build native? Okay, we'll run whatever version it is they have already published.

This in conjunction with Fex makes it so that they should be able to run any VR game that could possibly be run in the limited hardware, and they're giving studios a way to release a "native" version that they already have laying around for better performance (or even to make their first release on Steam).

And let's not forget side-loading, most games on the Quest have already leaked their APK, they don't care too much because they're the only Android portable VR, but because the frame is an open platform people would be able to just install those files manually very easily. So if the studios won't do the minimal effort to bring their games to the frame the community will. I was momentarily sad when I realized that robo recall (which I own for the Oculus Quest) is not available on Steam, less sad now.

[-] Hond@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago

Nah, regarding to your last paragraph: I dont think it will be that easy. Atleast officially.

These arent just .APKs like on Android. Like there is the whole VR/XR part which come with their own SDKs, runtimes and so on. While there are a few (mostly opensource) apps floating around which support multiple plattforms at the same tim like Quests, Picos, Play for Dream etc most of the Quest .apks are targeting very specifically the Quest platform and its hardware/softwarestack.

I also wouldnt call them "leaks". These are just good old pira... game preservations. Apart from a few games with extra drm measures pretty much every paid Quest game got... preserved.

There is an unofficial porting tool floating around to get Quest exclusives running on eg Pico headsets. Heres a website which tracks the working ones btw: https://ppdata.uk/?tab=OVR+Ports&sort=Updates&limit=20&page=1

But i know a ... friend who told me that some of these needed some very heavy lifting on top of the already heavy lifting the dev of the porting tool did to get running.

Would be a rather stupid move of Valve if they provided all the means to just pirate Quest games on the Frame. They want to make it as easy for devs to port their games to the Frame. But thats it.

But yeah, the seafaring community will probably find ways to port the quest games unofficially rather fast since the ground work is already done.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I was talking about the community in the last paragraph. The tool makes easier official ports and also allows unofficial ones (which works as an encouragement to studios to make the port official).

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

While I too believe the medium has been poisoned by all the mobile slop I think phone games can be fun, just the same way the game boy games or the DS games were fun.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Linux is sure becoming the universal platform - We just need a proper macOS compatibility layer now

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

For what, exactly?

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of people here missing the bigger picture:

This could be the start for a Valve-backed Linux phone.

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

Instead of a text messager, it hits my steam messager.

I open a browser, steam store opens up.

I click on where to download apps, it opens up steam.

I use my bank, it takes it out of my steam wallet.

I have a button to call Gabe.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I don’t think valve should hesitate in jumping into the mobile market. It’s ripe for disruption, especially right now and valve has no issues throwing money at new hardware.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Oooh I hope they partner(ed) with Liberux Nexx, that phone looks like its going to be an excellent flagship Linux phone.

That's a fun fantasy, but this is almost certainly a way to get Oculus games running on the Steam Frame.

They're 100% coming for Oculus' lunch with this one.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

I don't think even Meta is eating Oculus's lunch... Making big losses on the Quest iirc.

I didn't really want a full PC on my face. I just wanted cheap streaming from my actual PC. Quest is actually really good for this, but it would have been nice to have something affordable that wasn't from Meta.

I'd literally pay double to not have it come from Meta.

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I think that I want a PC on my face

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I wondered the same thing, but I don't think that this will be a big impact for mobile phones. AFAICT there are three blockers for mov8ng from andro8d to linux on a mobile phone:

  1. Hardware drivers: 'cause hardware companies don't care, so OSS driver developers struggle to deliver efficient drivers
  2. Battery life: both because of drivers, but also because linux isn't tuned for efficiency like mobile Oses are;
  3. Software : google play is such a walled garden, and some apps won't run without it (some banking apps and some popular google apps.)
[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago

I wouldn't mind a Steam Whistle, if it lets me have privacy and security.

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I bet it would be used to play Roblox and Fortnite. Two games that are inexcusably blocked from WINE/proton.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Roblox already works that way. Check Sober. I doubt fortnite would work cause Tim Sweeney will go to great lengths to stop it

[-] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

So you're telling me my daughter is gonna be able to play roblox on my Linux laptop soon? Thanks, but no thanks. PS: I know about vinegar.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

It amuses me to play Roblox with my son when he's on a tablet or console and I'm using the Sober app to run the Android client on my Linux desktop that was built to be a windows gaming PC several years ago when he was a little baby.

He has an old PC that he doesn't use much, but he's got a much fancier one on the way.

[-] DrRufusFeynman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

That's cool because 0.00023 % of android games are not only Pay2WinMoneyGrabGarbage.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

quest native VR titles are usually android

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