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Due to the large number of reports we've received about recent posts, we've added Rule 7 stating "No low-effort posts. This is subjective and will largely be determined by the community member reports."

In general, we allow a post's fate to be determined by the amount of downvotes it receives. Sometimes, a post is so offensive to the community that removal seems appropriate. This new rule now allows such action to be taken.

We expect to fine-tune this approach as time goes on. Your patience is appreciated.

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[-] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

This is fine if the post is something insanely low effort.

But I do worry if this ends up being too aggressive.

One of the things that made reddit so awful is how over moderated it was.

I don't really take issue with dozens of posts by newbies asking the same basic question over and over. I used to be one and am occasionally back there again if I start a new hobby. Hopefully newcomers don't get pushed off by overly sensitive moderation.

It would be helpful if you could provide a hypothetical example of what is considered a "low effort" post.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I couldn't agree more, I join selfhosting communities all over and not just because I need more stuff to host, because of the community. I love getting to read through the questions and answers, even when they are questions that could be answered by just reading the man page... Maybe it just reminds me of the good old days as I'm getting older and remember asking a lot of similar questions.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

I don’t really take issue with dozens of posts by newbies asking the same basic question over and over. I used to be one and am occasionally back there again if I start a new hobby. Hopefully newcomers don’t get pushed off by overly sensitive moderation.

I'm not sure if I agree with this, unless you need clarification on something specific the forum like nature and search should allow you to find answers to previous questions without asking it again.

But I do agree overmoderation is bad. I swear if communities start implementing a karma system...

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 month ago

Lemmy apps already have karma systems.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -3 points 1 month ago

Lemmy started off over moderated and has only gotten worse. Moderation here is honestly worse than Reddit already, since we can see the ridiculous comment removals and bans and their reasons.

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Does this include Youtube videos? Or at least Youtube videos without a clear description and summary?

Those constant ad money farming posts really lower the quality of this sub.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seems there are 2 kinds - video links with almost no text, just farming visits, and video links with a wall of text.

Both suck. Videos, in general, suck.

So much of what goes on here needs text, lots of it. Video is slow and cumbersome.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

If the quality of the video is good, I like to see it here.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

The problem is they are almost never good, as everyone can read the same info 4x faster than someone can present it (best case), and 10x faster isn't unusual.

Source: Former technical trainer - I've read a lot about instructional methodologies. Video is the lowest common denominator that's all. It can be useful for things that have a visual component, and self hosting has very little of that.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

At minimum there should be a good description of what the video is about, with no clickbait.

[-] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

But how would you know before watching?

"Based on the upvotes and comments" Oh then others doing the work to watch it and rate it on lemmy for you.

Imo, when a link to a video or forum or whatever is posted, then at least a summery or a discussion should be included.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

That is what Lemmy is for. Sometimes you will take the risk and watch the video and comment, if it interests you more.

Other times you'll let others do it for you, or skim over it if it interests you less.

That's how I use Lemmy anyway.

[-] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I can understand the potential problems of trying to define "low-effort post". In contrast can guidelines be given for a "quality post". If no guidance on either end is given it may discourage some people from posting anything. Maybe people can contribute what they see as indications of a "quality post".

[-] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've seen slightly offtopic posts deleted here, even after some interesting conversation in the comments. I think Lemmy is small, and it could help the platform if conversations and posts are preserved even if they are not 100% on topic. But I respect the work of mods, it's their decision how they run a community, even if I don't agree with them all time.

But just as a backup, if things take an unexpected turn, here are some similar, but much less active communities:

This is also to the "low effort" posters, if you disagree with your post's removal you can post it to other similar communities.

[-] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 month ago

I've posted here and had it deleted. So I don't bother.
The instance I'm a member of had an unused selfhosting comm, and I started using it. Other people did too. Thanks for the shout out.

[-] NastyNative@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Imagine becoming upset over simple questions and resorting to reporting them. It’s similar to the current job market positions advertised as entry-level but requiring a minimum of five years of experience.

[-] rearview@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Seems okay-ish if it removes all the AI slop and spam quickly. The mods already have the technical power to dictate things, so this rule change just make their actions tie more closely to their management reputation

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -2 points 1 month ago

Why? Why would you remove a post that some people deem “low effort”? People can just ignore the posts if they think it’s low effort.

More censorship and gate keeping has never been an good option.

this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2025
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