Wait what? I can literally put my head to my kids ear and she can hear my tinnitus. How is this news?
I had to find the source article. I was too fascinated.
https://thequietus.com/interviews/lola-de-la-mata-oceans-on-azimuth-tinnitus-interview/
Next time I'm gonna have to make the source thingy bigger. I put it up above. Not criticizing you, saying sorry that I wasn't more obvious with my thing and made you go lookin'. But it is a fascinating article
I saw it but I thought it was a link for the source for the tweet not the source for the original article. I wasn't motivated enough to check it because of my assumption.
What lind of Horton Hears a Who shit is this?
My tinnitus is a real vibration and not faulty signals from dead hair cells in my inner ear?
Seriously?
I thought tinnitis is where your brain can't filter it out? I think most people can hear a sound anywhere if they focus on it.
Almost. Tinnitus is constant ear ringing. Like a high pitched, constant noise. It does vary in intensity in people who have it though and is not always noticeable. (I don't have tinnitus, so may not be 100% accurate)
When your brain can't filter out sounds, that is one of the side effects of audio processing disorder. Probably a lot of other things that cause it too. Audio processing disorder is exactly what it sounds like. You can hear, but its hard to understand. Can't filter sounds (you hear all sounds at their actual volume). Sometimes causes people to think I am hearing impaired. Frequently causes me to mishear things as completely different, unrelated sounds. Many people also have difficulty determining which direction noises come from, although I haven't personally experienced this
Its literally sounds that other people can’t hear because they are generated by your own ear ears. Typically, it’s from something damaged in your ear or excess earwax.
It’s not constant, necessarily. It’s also not always ringing. And, you might not hear it in both ears.
For me, I do hear ringing often but not constantly. Sometimes, I just hear a high pitched squeal for a bit. Sometimes it’s the unlike 30 seconds and sometimes it’s much longer.
The symptom that stands out most, is the static sound. It’s like the sound you hear when you tune a tv or a radio to empty station. It mostly happens if the environment is too loud. That could be loud music/tv, a crowd of people, or maybe even just someone speaking loudly.
Most of the time, it’s just kinda annoying and not too bad. If I hear static, I know I’m in an environment that is too loud, and I need to do something to protect the hearing I still have.
I thought otoacoustic emissions were known for a while, but I guess confirming that tinnitus is (or can be) an OAE might be promising for treatment.
Much like our visual processing, sound goes through a series of neural gates before you witness it. Nothing is truly what you perceive. Fight me about it.
Another example of the medical mindset at work. By far the biggest self-congratulating cretins I've had the misfortune of dealing with have been doctors. They are truly clueless and could be replaced by a mildly-trained parrot with Alzheimer's and I think no one would notice for years.
Dumbasses, EVERYTHING is created by your brain, that's what "real" is you fucking deliberately obtuse frying-pan brained developmentally addled dunces.
Go fill out more forms to order more "tests" so you can ignore the results, you mental invalids.
Could you elaborate on this reaction? They claim to have actually recorded the sound. Measurably.
Are you scolding the people described in the text in this image, or do you mean she had doctors telling her she's fine and stuff?
Edit: oh there's a link to an article, now I see 😂
i had decent pitch before my tinnitus, but it rings at a constant e8. now i have perfect pitch.
Nice ! that's two octaves higher than my highest e on the guitar (first string, twelvth fret). I could definitely use this
tinnitus
Nice!
😅
now I have perfect pitch.
Nice !
I know, I know, I was just kidding 😉
alright. I was afraid I sounded like a dick to people who do have tinnitus
😄 You're a good person
Here is an interview with her. She had it bad:
“I do have a chronic health condition, which made it difficult to pinpoint if it was that that was suddenly getting worse, or whether it was [the damage to the ear] that was causing neurological changes, but I literally couldn’t walk straight; I was having what looked like strokes where I would collapse.” A violinist, she was told by doctors to give up playing. When the COVID pandemic arrived a few months in, she was forced to shield because of ultimately false suspicions that she had MS. “I got really frustrated,” De La Mata says. “I wasn’t getting any of the answers I wanted. It was, ‘Your hearing is fine, you’re young, you’re healthy,’ and it’s like, well clearly I’m not if I can’t walk and people are feeding me.”
https://thequietus.com/interviews/lola-de-la-mata-oceans-on-azimuth-tinnitus-interview/
"you're young, you're healthy", and its like, well clearly I'm not if I can't walk and people are feeding me.
Yup, sounds like a doctor alright
I've had my own fair share of doctors not believing my struggles. Sometimes even directly getting in the way of medical help. And yes, it's incredibly unhelpful.
I spent 20 years trying to find a rheumatologist who would take my positive lupus test results, symptoms, extensive family history, and potential comorbidities seriously and give me a diagnosis and treatment. Nobody would listen until I was 23 because I was "too young." After 23, they started accusing me of just wanting medical marijuana.
At 27 I finally found a doctor that would take me seriously. We spent 2 hours going over the 15 years of medical records of mine that are accessible digitally, as well as some physical records from before that that my mother kept in a safe. The doctor ordered an absurd amount of tests and gave me a diagnosis when they all came back indicating that I, indeed, have lupus. She saw the same results in all of my records, too. I've tested positive and have had all of the other indicators my entire life. Like I am a textbook case of Systemic Lupus Erythematous that attacks the joints and connective tissue.
She started me on treatment and for the first time in my life, I'm not ruled by my pain and fatigue. I actually have a life now. I have started doing things that I've always dreamed of doing because now I can. I'm not chained to my bed anymore.
All of the doctors that refused to treat me despite positive test results and symptoms because I was "too young" or "just wanting marijuana" can rot in Hell. "Do not harm" my ass. I spent twenty years suffering, with multiple pediatricians and general practitioners sending me to every rheumatologist they knew of to try to get treatment for what they, non-specialists, believe I suffer from.
I drive two and a half hours one way every 6 months to see my rheumatologist and it's worth it because she gave me my life. I'd say she gave my life back to me, but I never had one to begin with. I'm actually living now. 20 years too late if you ask me, but better late than never.
To be fair, did she even try yoga?
Or see a chiropractor?
A violinist, she was told by doctors to give up playing.
i've had doctors recommend similar. i've basically learned MDs gave up all their dreams and they expect us to do so as well
This was already known. Some forms of tinnitus are 'real'
So its a real sound? Noise cancelling implants then?
I've always learned it comes from damaged hair cells inside the ear, how could it be anything but physical? Very surprised it can be picked up with a microphone in an anechoic chamber though
It's called objective tinnitus. Tinnitus can have different causes, the damaged hair cells one is the most common.
how could it be anything but physical?
The sound? Well, ultimately sounds are just those hairs and your cochlea and eardrum and all that getting hit by vibrations in the air and sending signals to your brain which get interpreted; damage the equipment so it sends signals even when there's no vibrations in the air hitting it, and you have your non-physical sound. Same way phantom limb syndrome works.
However what if the damage doesn't cause signals in the absence of sound? What if tinnitus is actually the cochlea itself (or something/s in the apparatus anyway) physically vibrating and producing that whining sound? Like a mosquito's wings beating.
I have a kind of tinnitus that comes and goes based on how stressed out the tendons in my neck and jaw are, on one side, after a pretty serious physical injury.
I can basically massage away my tinnitus a good deal of the time, its only on the side that got fucked up.
Beyond that, I actually have exceptionally good hearing (for my age at least), and I often hear things other people don't even notice, yay autism!
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