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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by trilobite@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I use KeepassDX on family mobiles with Syncthing for copies between laptop and phones. What would i gain moving to Vaultwarden, knowing that i would never open my network to the outside world? It would be easier to manage for sure, as im having to setup phones and laotops myself in the family and worry that they do silly things like turn off syncthing. But what about offline access to passwords? Does Bitwarden mobile client keep a local copy of database until it can sync?

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[-] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I use Vaultwarden hosted on my private server. It's great, will never use another PW manager. and yes it's cached locally so you're good. on PC, at least via the bitwarden CLI, you do a one time login and that's it. you're logged in until you tell it to logout, logs you in automatically on restarts and what have you. plus it's very easy to access on whatever pc or phone you want to use. for pc you can just add the bw extension and have your passwords where ever or just simply login to your vaultwarden page remotely. this has been a life saver for me a couple times when I needed a pw for something but I wasn't on my machine and borrowing someone elses.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

tl;dr: yes, credentials are cached locally. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/discussions/4676

The major downside to the single file storage used by Keepass is that it's easy to accidentally create a conflict between files on different devices if they're not synced immediately. Conflicting files have to be merged manually or data might be lost. I've run into this several times with Keepass + Nextcloud. In comparison, a central master database with local cache can resolve conflicts between individual records.

[-] vas@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Technically KeePass can "merge" and has some sort of conflict resolution, but you're right that forgotten and unaddressed conflicts can lay around for unlimited time without you noticing. It's the main problem with keepass + syncthing.

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That is another problem i face when i have the app open on desktop and phone at the same time. Its a nightmare.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 2 months ago

I use keepassxc and syncthing and have never had this problem.

I think there's something in the settings to save after each change and reparse if there's a remote change.

[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Doesn't it only lead to problems if you change the same exact data on both copies to different values? It literally never happened to me, I never had a merge problem. It always just asks me to merge, I say yes, and that's it.

Oh wait I use KeepassXC not DX, dunno what the difference is

[-] Centaur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

KeepassXC is password manager for desktop computers and KeepassDX is application for Android phones.

[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, for Android I use Keepass2Android which also seems to handle external changes perfectly.

[-] flux@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, Vaultwarden can only be updated online. While I do use it, I consider it a major downside, along with the inability to sync attachments.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Why do you want to ditch KeePass? I use it with Syncthing between at least six different devices without an issue.

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Do you worry about the sus new maintainer for syncthing-fork on android?

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

If you do don't trust em then don't update syncthing - it'll work for quite a while I assume.

And in addition the keepass safe default encryption of AES-256 and is even secure against theoretically existing quantum computer attacks to our current knowledge. It is designed to be not trusted by the storage owner :)

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

And, i can't find clients on f-droid. Any variants recomended that dont come from the playstore.

Another key feature will be Keepass data import.

[-] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago
[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Nice one. I missed this

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