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Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?

Any thoughts?

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[-] mech@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

The vast majority of people fleeing from war-torn countries today do not flee to Europe. They flee to safer areas within their own countries, then to neighboring countries, then to other culturally similar countries. The number of people who try to make it all the way to Europe and then succeed pales in comparison.
The narrative that there's a huge migration wave from unstable third world countries to Europe is a lie perpetuated by the right wing.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Other European countries, other western countries like Canada, Australia, or New Zealand

[-] ABCatMom@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Canadian here, we'll be there again if you all need us ❤️

[-] MooseWinooski@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Our federal government is making it much harder to immigrate here and many people are being forced to leave the country since they can't become a permanent resident anymore.

I agree with your sentiment, but our government and the average Canadian is far more anti-immigrant than 10 years ago.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Housing crisis really put a damper on things.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In an asylum scenario definitely can be considered but for migration in general we need to stabilize the housing and cost of living situation before we start inviting people over in my opinion. The population is also skewing more elderly (with immigration there being the only balancing factor) there and here so need go make sure our healthcare system is ready for such a migration without causing any institutional shocks.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago

These concerns have been raised by clans, tribes, cities, and countries in receipt of migrants since the dawn of time.

You're correct that migration needs to be balanced against the ability of the services and existing resources to support migrants, while acknowledging that migrants bring with them needed skills and investment.

You're probably also correct regarding the stability of housing and cost of living. That's how things are in Australia at present in any case.

However, asylum is a special class of migration. You're not accepting migrants because you want them, but because they will face persecution if you don't. If a stream of Europeans arrived on Canada's shores by boat, and they faced imprisonment on undue punishment if you returned them, would you provide them shelter?

[-] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

It only you had massive amounts of land available

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

That's the least important consideration. When people arrive in the country they don't just get told "here's some land!" And dumped in an open field to make do. The resources needed for them are houses, jobs, health care, and so forth. We don't have vast amounts of that lying around unused.

[-] sam@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

dumped in an open field to make do.

Literally how Manitoba came to be. 🤣

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I live pretty much in the middle of nowhere that is between three mountains and a Scandinavian fjord. I don't see any safer alternatives to where I'm already at.

[-] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

My basement. But it's full of wood debris pending a rebuild. Clean it out, and it's yours. Don't tell anyone, though, as I doubt it's legal to live there.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Historically, Argentina and the USA.

[-] Lemming421@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but the non-Nazis need somewhere to go as well…

[-] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

They flee to Switzerland aka Supereurope. After that you pray to the heavens.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

(Random thoughts, I'm clueless about this subject, it's safer to assume I'm wrong about everything)

USA is an obvious first choice for many. I imagine other developed countries in the Americas will be hotspots too. The big question is which countries would accept mass influxes of European refugees.

I wonder if enough could flee to Africa, and bring some substantial wealth with them... Would that actually help Africa catch up to the developed world? Or would it instead just be new colonialism?

Of course Africa is huge, diverse and messy, so that's a very vague answer/question.

[-] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, this might change in the future and is not representative of every person here, but as an European, the USA would be one of the last places on my list to flee to if I had to. The current administration has made it more than clear that Europeans are not welcome (that doesn't speak for all US Americans, of course, but still).

Canada or a South American country like Brazil would be a much better choice.

If not America, there's North Africa (Tunisia, Egypt), Turkey (which is arguably part of Europe in certain ways) and maybe even a Caucasus state, depending on what kind of war I'm fleeing from.

Some of those might be better suited for a longer stay than others.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The USA is the exact opposite of safe. A record number of people are currently trying to leave or have left (I'm one of those)

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