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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by DSN9@lemmy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

How can I move a book I purchased a couple years ago from Amazon to my Kobo Clara. I absolutely refuse to pay for it a second time. I checked Anna's and it's not listed. I should check again though. Is their a way to rip it from Amazon? Also fuck Amazon.

Is their drm embedded with my personal information? I.e. if I get a copy of the drm book and do a shit job on Calibre, then upload to Anna's, am I personally liable?

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[-] DSN9@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Well I found the book elsewhere 🤠😄

Really love my book club Anna 🫣🦥😐🙃😉

[-] JaymesRS@piefed.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Do you have access to an old kindle device? That makes it pretty easy with Calibre and the noDRM plugin.

It was easier when you could download it to your computer, but Amazon disabled that last year because so many people were removing the DRM.

[-] DSN9@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

So if it's not sitting on a kindle, I have zero access to the file? What did I pay for then

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Nothing. That's the trick people are slowly starting to become aware of.

[-] JaymesRS@piefed.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

According to the terms, when you purchase a Kindle e-book, you are buying a license to access the content rather than owning the book outright. And the only reason they made it explicit is CA law AB 2426. So you can “access” it on any device that can display their content, be it an app or hardware device, but you can’t possess it via a download for example. (I find this all to be bullshit, I’m just stating Amazon’s position on the topic)

https://www.ereadersforum.com/threads/amazon-clarifies-kindle-e-book-purchases-youre-licensing-not-owning.4831/

This is a big part of why I have a kobo, the files are easy to scrub of the DRM but I’m still getting an easy way to throw money at creators I value.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 4 days ago

Do you happen to know if those shitty terms are also in Google Books? My sister has a lot of books there, and when I tried to warn her that those books might suddenly disappear: "But no, I have them in my account..." 🤷

[-] JaymesRS@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don’t have an easy answer. Amazon was the 1 ton gorilla in the room so that was the one I was familiar with, but I will try to update this comment as I find information out.

Kobo: Seems like it’s yours to keep without resale or transfer rights. (https://download.kobobooks.com/learnmore/kobo1_pdf/Kobo_eReader_Terms_of_Use.pdf)

Google: Yours to keep provided the authorized agent and Google themselves maintain rights to provide it. (https://books.google.com/intl/en/googlebooks/tos.html)

B&N Nook: seems to be more in line with Amazon (https://www.nook.com/services/cms/doc/us/en_us/legal/nook-store-terms.html#ItemsPurchases)

Smashwords: seems more like ownership without transferability. (https://www.smashwords.com/about/tos)

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 3 days ago

Wow, I didn't expect such a torough answer, thank you very much! 😊 I'll try to convince my sister to save all the books somewhere else, but I don't have much hope. --👂️😐️👂️-->

[-] oeuf@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 days ago

If you can get it onto a kindle you can then plug the kindle into a computer and use Calibre to remove any DRM and transfer it onto the Kobo.

If you've bought any other books on Amazon I highly recommend to do all the books in a batch and getting them all out while you can.

[-] DSN9@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I don't have a kindle, I think I just read it on my phone before

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 6 points 4 days ago

It may be difficult if your Kindle is up to date.

https://blog.pixelmelt.dev/kindle-web-drm/

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

How do you like your kobo?

[-] DSN9@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Cool, cheap, open(er), shit security 🙄😅, fine as an ink reader nothing else. People say use w calibre for notes and highlighted extraction, but I've not tried that yet

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