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[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, this is bringing back memories. They got me a little bit, but I kind of had an out. The OG reddit atheists and the fact many online chuds just had the same opinions as the bottom 10% of any given school grade already soured me on conservatism. Plus, I always thought Americanism was “ugly” after being saturated in anime aesthetics like the weeb trash I am. Thanks anime for teaching me the world outside the US borders is a pretty great place.

I was duped about some people coming after me for revenge for a bit but nothing too serious upon realizing many of these “anti-SJWs” are committing the very crimes they say SJWs want revenge for. All it took was them flat out admitting they’re republicans and I saw them for the seppo yanks they were and noped out.

Representation matters, diverse media as a kid helped a lot personally and they wrote Freiza to be perfectly punchable so I never wanted to be like that Barney-went-to-Hot-Topic-looking-ass scumbag.

[-] daniyeg@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i was a kid and was just starting to understand english, and fell through the pewdiepie pipeline. i don't think i sincerely believed anything it was just entertainment for me, but it was poisoning the assumptions i would hold about the world. anyway i stopped when i got recommended a video from paul joseph watson talking about 'no-go' zones in sweden and how filthy muslims are. safe to say after realising these guys are racist as fuck and how smug and pathetic they are i stopped following them.

i cannot say i was radicalised, but i was definitely passively consuming their bullshit narratives. i think the important factors for deciding to cut them off for my adolescent brain was that a. i realized how uncool and spiteful they are and b. i was part of the group they hated.

[-] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I only had access to the internet from 2014 onwards, and during my first few years online, I didn't have much time because I shared a computer with five siblings. I actually spent most of my time watching Naruto episodes on YouTube, in terrible quality and with each episode split into ten videos. internet contracts were far too expensive for my family before 2014. That's probably why I didn't notice any of this. Thank god.

[-] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

so you got fully online for the first time around 2020? that sounds like a different kind of awful

[-] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

No, that was around 2016, after Trump was elected. That's when I got my first smartphone. But YouTube wasn't relevant to me, and social media certainly wasn't. I created accounts and had the same attitude then as I do now in that regard. I hated that my posts could be liked and that I immediately noticed how inferior I felt because I had seven likes on my profile picture or something. I thought that was extremely shitty, so I stopped immediately. I chatted a lot with friends on WhatsApp. I think that was definitely what I spent most of my time doing and read manga on my smartphone. Naruto, One Piece, etc. When it comes to politics, I was raised on an extreme hatred of the USA, which gave me an excellent framework for understanding the internet and news. I remember when Obama was elected and I said in class that the USA is generally a horrible country that likes to murder people. My teacher was shocked at the time, she was pretty hyped because Obomba had won.

[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I came across SomeOrdinaryGamers after watching a LEMMiNO documentary about the deep web. I was interested in the deep web and found Mutahar's deep web series. I started watching him because I found him funny, and later I enjoyed his LSD Dream Emulator series, his Linux content, his creepypasta/nosleep reads, and his other computer related content. I don't consider myself to have fallen into the pipeline, though. I was already exploring alternative economic systems and systems of government at this time after being appalled by the repeal of net neutrality. I was becoming more socialist each year, and listening to SomeOrdinaryGamers and other creators talk about yet another tech right being stripped away from us by the US left me more tired and frustrated with my material reality. I stopped watching SomeOrdinaryGamers and various other creators once I became full-on communist and I realized they were anti-communist, were spreading CIA propaganda bullcrap, and did some things that lost my respect for them.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think I dodged a lot of bullets over the years. Most of this stuff I've never even see once, unless someone like Hasan was talking over it. H3, though, that was a regular fixture in the house for a while. The goofs and gaffs started to dry up around the time they were going after Ryan Kavanaugh. It consumed so much air time, and at times it became funny, but the bits would just be ground into dust quickly. The nights they were not doing a show though, we were watching Hasan, and then eventually Leftovers. By that time, I was already very interested in learning about socialism and communism. Once those topics started getting more air time on Leftovers, it was obvious to me that Ethan wasn't someone who cared to learn anything. They specifically had an episode that was, to my recollection, pitched as "Hasan explains Socialism to Ethan", which actually was "Ethan plans on trying to win the debate about socialism against Hasan". That seemed to be the turning point for the show, and it definitely solidified my dislike for the whole H3 thing pretty quickly. Naturally, the fallout from Oct. 7th killed the show and made it even more clear that Ethan was a chud. That might have been the last time we watched any H3 content regularly. By then we were to busy being parents to keep up with either, but would catch Hasan videos on YouTube. I discovered channels like Second Thought and The Deprogram from there, and eventually that landed me here.

However, to say any of these people really played a huge role in the rise of leftist thought in my mind would be an exaggeration. That started with the 2008 housing market collapse, the release of the Bitcoin white paper shortly after, and eventually Occupy Wall Street, which, even though I wasn't on the ground, the surrounding messaging got its hooks in me. I remember all the discussions about turning the internet into a public utility, the "internet blackout" protests against the SOPA and PIPA laws, the death of Arron Swartz, all getting my gears spinning. Eventually, it was the Sanders 2016 fuckery, Hillary Clinton replacing him, Trump winning the election, BLM, Covid, Biden, Oct 7th, the Kamala campaign losing to Trump, and now. That all played, a much more significant role in my radicalization than any of these YouTubers. If anything, I ended up a Hasan watcher because of these events, and not the other way around. I remember, after the Sanders thing and Trump winning, having discussions with friends at the time, where I was the only one who seemed to think these events could only lead to some kind of violent event. That the natural trajectory of Trump coming into office would eventually be some form of armed rebellion. Obviously, I was only half right, as the Jan 6th stuff was really more akin to a coup attempt and petty bourgeois revolt than anything else, but at that time I was still pretty uneducated.

Regardless, that was informed by the events of BLM, and the rhetoric coming out of that movement. I remember seeing an interview of a black woman next to a boarded up CVS, so angry she was in tears, telling the camera "You killed us in the streets … We played your game and built your wealth for 400 years, and when we built our own wealth in Rosewood, you dropped bombs on us, you came in, and you slaughtered us … so fuck your Hall of Fame, fuck your Target. As far as I'm concerned, I could burn all this to the ground, and it still wouldn't be enough. They are lucky that what Black people are looking for is equality and not revenge".

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

We can't say that the 5th bun satisfied our hunger and the first four could've been skipped.

[-] stevatoo@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think the only reason that I didn't fall for it with Oneyplays is because DD&J would largely mock him for it, though he and Zach had already curated anti-sjw audiences with sleepy cabin so that's just a thing I get be aware of any time smiling friends comes up.

[-] moss_icon@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

I had pretty liberal views during that time, it wasn’t until 2020 that I really became involved in Marxism and leftist spaces but it was a pretty quick process once I did.

I just met someone who made me question my beliefs. That’s all it took really. I had already been disillusioned by my right wing family and had been spending my entire life rebelling against them anyway.

[-] Binette@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

I didn't like how they talked about trans women

[-] AnEye@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

I was in the orbit for a while, came close at times, but never quite there. I was very much into transgressive and edgy humor, all the bad stuff, but it just gradually fades away when one realizes that these topics are serious, that the people making these jokes believe them and aren't just being ridiculous and absurd. At the end of the day, I grew up with egalitarian beliefs and love, I was simply ignorant of political news and struggle until adulthood.

Luckily for me, I wasn't very interested in gaming, could not care less about GG and ignored almost everything about it. By the way, there are still active GG discussion groups way out in the trash heaps of the internet. What a waste of human life.

Spoiler for longpost - mostly /r/, 4 and 8chGot caught in a few reddit potholes in the early teens. Subreddits like /r/sjwhate and /r/fatpeoplehate. Plus the /r/nofap broscience, which was easier to fall into because I coincidentally had a medical condition that impacted my sexuality. After a while I managed to abstain for three and four months to see if it would help (spoiler: it didn't). I also had a look into pick-up communities during high school, like /r/seduction, but never got into any of the anti-feminism and grifter stuff.

4chan during teen years, mainly hobby boards (some art boards had a reputation for being more left-leaning than the rest of the site), more-or-less left the site around 2017. I probably still have a rare Pepe saved from 2013, and grew tired of them before they started being mentioned at high school. I even spent some time on a few select feels threads on the robot board, but was what they label a 'cyborg' - didn't quite fit in with normal people, nor with the bitter incel crowd. Not completely alienated.

In fact I was in a few 8ch communities. None of the /pol/shit, and wasn't interested in /leftypol/ at the time. But apart from the occasional /pol/vangelist spammer and some screeching anti-SJW idiots on /tech/ (the whole Covenant Code of Conduct drama, and general crying about trans developers and Indian people), there wasn't anything alt-right about my experience there. And I was mature enough by then to see the anti-SJW drama nerds and bigots for the clowns they are, I just ignored or laughed at them. Luckily I eventually shifted over to Lainchan, who (at least at the time) banned people who spilled the soykaf. (no, I still haven't watched SEL)

That was around the time I got a full-time professional job near 2020, /r/worldnews had a lot of Bernie fans talking about socialism, /r/latestagecapitalism was a part of my on-ramp. I also got into /r/conspiracy for a few months, but that dried up as it became more and more dominated by nonsense like pizzagate and absolute nonsense theories. Their list of confirmed conspiracies was interesting and may still hold up (I haven't checked), included things like MKULTRA and Western military history of testing nuclear and chemical weapons on civilians and in range of civilian infrastructure, wasn't just right wing trash.

Joined an edgy 4chan-adjacent online art group just as most of the remaining members were pulling each other out of the alt-pipeline and becoming socialists and communists. As fascinating (and prolific) as their story was, I'm sworn to secrecy; we have an extensive history of stalkers.

I had near misses but I came away mostly fine and with a good set of friends. One of my co-workers, on the other hand, had a former-friend at school try to groom them into fascism, they got close to the edge before seeing what the future holds for those freaks and gtfo'd of the pipeline.

[-] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Fell into it in around 2017 I’d say, I got recommended a video about the pewdiepipeline (going off memory, noncompete?) From 2019, I huffed so much copium regarding Bernie and Corbyn, it’s still painful to look back

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 4 points 3 months ago

I was 35 in 2015 and was already firmly an ancom and hated the anti-SJW bullshit

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Despite my trash-tier politics for much of that timeframe, I didn't fall for the anti-SJW pipeline because they're just an offshoot of G*mergate and I didn't fall for G*mergate because:

  1. I actually played Depression Quest before the controversy. The controversy is nonsense when you realize Depression Quest is a free-to-play Twine game that took an hour to play. Whether the review is biased or not is less important than the fact that the entire game cost an hour of your time at most and that people who don't like VMs would only waste like 5 minutes. You didn't even need to run an .exe file since you could just play it online.

  2. Speaking of game made from Twine, the talking point of pre-G*mergate g*mers was how VMs and walking simulators like Dear Esther weren't real games^TM^. All that talk about VMs being fake games went out the window when a certain Twine game got involved because suddenly g*mers would look really fucking stupid to mald about games that aren't even real games^TM^.

  3. Game journos being shitty at playing videogames and corrupt isn't remotely news at that point. There's Nintendo Power being glorified ads for Nintendo games. There's game journos defending the crappy color endings of ME3. But perhaps the most infamous of all was Jeff Gerstmann getting fired from Gamespot because he gave Kane & Lynch a mediocre review. So of course, it's sus as fuck when the straw that broke the camel's back was a positive review of a free online VM that took only an hour to complete instead of journos shilling for AAA slop that cost people real money.

[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

My college education included some philosophy, So aside from the blatant fascism, it always made me cringe that the alt right was convinced that philosophy meant you could just say whatever with conviction and that was "your take on philosophy" pure anti intellectualism, Jordan Peterson was a pioneer on this shit and he ruined a generation across the isle.

[-] UmmmCheckPlease@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Damn haha you poor kids (using that loosely- I’m not much older). We didn’t have Internet widely available at home until 2008 or so it was just watching “gi joe” dubs and watching my brother play games (and not share lol). In my prime “debate bro” years - Bush was popular and any of the talking points were easy to tear down . And I thought SJW was a positive thing - meaning people who’d throw a punch at a bully on behalf of those who couldn’t lol. I also lucked out and was at a traditional (old school) Lutheran church with husband/wife pastors who I later realized preached a lot of liberation theology - my dumb ass thought that was standard for Christianity lol. Going to a different church was reeeeeeeeally something. I think something about having a tendency towards oppositional defiance in a country that tends towards cruelty

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

just watching “gi joe” dubs

The boomer imperialist propaganda.

[-] UmmmCheckPlease@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

https://youtu.be/_YfjMZ6n8Bk

GOOD point - I actually turned into Henry Kissinger after watching this

[-] UmmmCheckPlease@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Follow up- the gi joe dolls I had weren’t allowed guns (moms orders) so rather than soldiers they were just buff dudes who liked to hang out with Ken and the power rangers lmao

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

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[-] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

I have always considered Social Justice Warriors to be reformist libs to my right and attack them only on those grounds.

I've had (and have) all sorts of bad ideas but this isn't one of them. Was too busy organizing IRL during gamergate to know about it. Had the vague impression that there was something going with sexism in video games, correctly surmised it was fash in origin/trajectory. It was in the context of a larger misogynist resurgence that I had personally been aware of for over 10 years prior so I saw in that context, rather than in the online context as others here. I've had to watch/listen/read multiple "explainers" to now have a grasp on the story there.

[-] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I probably could've fallen into the anti-sjw thing because I did think they were cringy but it was always the same joke and I always felt that even though they were cringy they at least meant well so I didn't see the point in watching a dumbass sjw cringe compilation.

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

i went into a pro sjw arc because they had cooler hair

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