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It reads to me like they're being responsible and not bowing to censorship; seems very similar to PornHub's approach to age verification laws. What would be a better course of action here, in your view?
not sucking Trump's administration while denouncing censorship only when your company is affected (oh yeah and all that on Elon's Twitter)
I wouldn't compare this to pornhub, pornhub is not responsible for hosting one of the biggest DNS resolvers
So your argument is that one of the biggest DNS resolvers should just bow to censorship imposed by a single nation? I'm not really getting what you think they should be doing about Italy's demand. Are you saying they should just pay the fines and keep doing business there?
That's not even close to what they said. Are you even actually reading anything?
I am, yeah. Like I say, I'm just not understanding what they're suggesting Cloudflare should be doing differently in this case, other than not invoking Vance and Musk (which granted is pretty gross to do).
I think it's the contradiction of trying to fight censor ship while also praising the US government, who is in a stream of heavy censorship. just look at that 60 min episode.
I think the point is that cloudflare is doing the right thing in this specific case, and the CEO is a douchebag anyway.
Let me explain you what are those fines for:
In Italy, soccer is so powerful that commands the government. They can legally block batches of IP adresses just because one of them could be streaming a soccer game.
It means if your IP is in the batch (even if you are innocent but just happens to share server with that pirate) you are cut from internet. No appeal, the IP is dead and your only choice is get a new one.
It's so dumb that they even blocked google once because of it. Cloudshare is fighting that, and I can assure you everyone in Italy, except the usual assholes licking the politician boots are beyond pissed with the so called "piracy shield".
Cloudflare has caused too much of the internet to be centralized under their whims. There need to be more alternatives for DDoS protection; I don't use any at all for my self-hosted site, but if I ever do, it won't be Cloudflare.
Thank you for linking via xcancel.com rather than to that service directly. Wish more posters would do this.
Good. Cloudflare is a tool for censorship and spying. Let them leave countries, so that international companies will be forced to stop using them. Interesting how quick that would happen, guaranteed.
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