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[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No, that is not a bright and sunny outlook, no matter how you cut it.

For those of you cheering on the death of the American Empire and the rise of communism from its ashes... You know you're never going to live to see that day, right? Maybe your children will, more likely your grandchildren if it happens at all. But between now and then, there will be a new Dark Age and it will last for DECADES minimum.

Get ready for food shortages, water shortages, critical infrastructure like power and Internet going out. Get ready for wars, bloody conflicts, authoritarian crackdowns that make today look like a cordial dinner party.

Like, you guys get that right? It's not just a switch being flipped. If you want to kill the beast that is the American Empire, it's going to thrash HARD. It's going to cause a LOT of fucking damage during and immediately after its collapse, and it won't be fast. It will be long, slow, and marked with untold amounts of suffering before something, if anything, can be rebuilt.

Yea, yea, society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they'll never sit under. Just make sure you're ready to struggle for survival for the rest of your life if you really want that shade to exist.

[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For those of you cheering on the death of the American Empire and the rise of communism from its ashes… You know you’re never going to live to see that day, right? Maybe your children will, more likely your grandchildren if it happens at all. But between now and then, there will be a new Dark Age and it will last for DECADES minimum.

This might or might not be true and overall I think your comment is a good point (the empire will keep doing damage as it dies).

However, I think the perspective of people from outside the US, especially in the Global South has to be considered. For them, AmeriKKKan "wars, bloody conflicts, authoritarian crackdowns" are already the reality and have been for a long time. America dying is purely beneficial to them, the slow death and thrashing from their perspective will just be the same thing America has always been, but less and less effective over time.

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[-] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

AmeriKKKan KKKracKKKers can't even see a cool anti-America meme without having a western fragility crashout in the comments, lmao.

[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 3 days ago

Accelerationism is the intellectual equivalent of pissing your pants to stay warm: comforting optimism at first, but then the frostbite hits you in the dick.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago

The meme isn't arguing for accelerationism. It's just observing that the US in it's current incarnation as a fascist state needs to be fought and defeated before anything can get better.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The death of the US Empire isn't "accelerationism," it's an understanding that the number one obstacle to socialism globally is the US Empire, and with it out of the way socialist countries are under far less pressure from the outside. Ideally an indigenous led, decolonial socialist state takes the place of the former US Empire, but a strong and healthy empire isn't going to get there. That's why its decay is necessary for both Statesians and the international proletariat.

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where accelerationists?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago

I'm starting to doubt that term ever had any salience or useful definition

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[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 days ago

I dunno if glee is the right emotion. America is going to lash out hard in it's death throes and cause a lot more pain and destruction. There's also no guarantee that what comes next will be any better; if anything, I'm expecting powerful corporations to carve up her corpse.

The rest of the world can breathe a sigh of relief when it's done, but an animal becomes most dangerous when it's backed into a corner.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 3 days ago

It's interesting to live through the death of a modern empire. Given how much access there is to history it really surprises me that no lesson is learned and no graceful transition is opted for.

Instead they follow the same route as all the empires of old, increasing violence and desperation practically guaranteeing hatred and reprisal when they are crippled and broken.

Of course all the elite will be dead by then so I suppose material analysis wins again as the correct lens to analyse history through.

[-] spacemint_rhino@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

“The rich experience of history teaches that up to now not a single class has voluntarily made way for another class. There is no such precedent in world history. The Communists have learned this lesson of history. Communists would welcome the voluntary departure of the bourgeoisie. But such a turn of affairs is improbable; that is what experience teaches. That is why the Communists want to be prepared for the worst and call upon the working class to be vigilant, to be prepared for battle.” - Stalin

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Said it better than me haha, no original thoughts in the world.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 days ago

graceful transition

Where do we opt for that when voting?

;D

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

The proles of the usa are not and have never been in charge. While I don't advocate complete disengagement from 'representative' politics it is important to understand it as a distracting machine to give legitimacy to the bourgeois rulers.

If you want to change things your power base must be significant and, critically, it must exist outside the machinery of state.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 72 points 4 days ago

“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”

― Antonio Gramsci (misattributed)

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 45 points 3 days ago
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[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 days ago

Is there an anarchist happily driving the bus?

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