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I've seen alot of calls for violence in America. Whether it be directed at the president or Federal officers, many people are advocating for an escalation in response to the current situation.

And believe me, I do understand. what I see happening in America is horrifying. But all I am imploring is to really think about what your asking for. Because you can't put the genie in the bottle once you've left it out.

If you're really gung-ho about it, go and ask a Veteran of Iraq or Afghanistan about it and see what they think. If anyone will know about it they will.

I am going to link a YouTube Playlist. Its the Associated Press Archives of the Bosnian-Serbian war. Because THAT is what will happen if wide scale violence breaks out. Except what will happen in America will be a hundred times worse.

The Bosnian war was pretty much broken up along ethnic lines. "Well it's going to be Conservative VS. Liberal" you say. Except it won't be. It will be anyone having a grudge against someone going after them.

ALOT of personal animosity will be taken out in the first few weeks I feel.

And I think the Seige of Sarajavo will be writ large in American cities across the country. Imagine having to dodge sniper fire on your way to get to your job at Wendy's.

Because that's the other thing no one is thinking about. You are still going to have to make a living while this is all going to be happening. And the cost of everything will skyrocket. Shipping will probably have to be escorted from place to place because people will be stealing or even blockading locations because they're "damn dirty libs" or "Fascist Conservatives" Fresh produce will become a thing of the past.

Canada and Mexico will close their borders due to all the refugee's trying to cross. so if you thinking of doing it, do it the moment everything pops off because otherwise you won't get in.

Basically Civil war is going to the worst thing to happen in America in a long time. and the only good that comes out of it will be Americans will finally have first hand experience of real war torn violence. And maybe that will hopefully last for another two hundred years or so.

If America even survives the outcome that is.

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[-] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Great post.

However, from a European perspective all this has been a long time coming, ignoring all warnings and with open arms (pun not intended).

So for the US I don't see how it can be fixed without going through this.

I'm sorry.

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

I would prefer peace. But let's be frank, that isn't likely to happen, because the Trump Regime consists of people who don't value a peaceful, kind, and just world.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

The other hand of the issue is the Democrats have repeatedly failed to recognize and manage the necessary decline of capitalism. It's "necessary" because capitalism had globalized and essentially run out of land and people too exploit.

Exploited countries will push (are pushing) back, and/or look for other options (China, etc). Because the Democratic party is a pro-capitalism party, they are unable to recognize this situation. Republicans recognize it and turn up the heat, both internally and externally. For a lot of (foolish) Americans, this looks like an appealing option.

The democrats could sweep 2028, but it means the snapback is going to be even more intense in 2032 when they fail to govern.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's too late, it's already starting to happen. People are already having to dodge ice just while going to work, Charlie Kirk literal got sniped while at work.

It's going to get worse before it gets better.

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[-] oyzmo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

History repeats itself—if we let it.

When building power, some leaders pick a group to blame: Hitler targeted Jews, Trump vilified immigrants. Once momentum builds, the list of "enemies" grows—anyone who disagrees becomes a target.

Recognizing these patterns is the first step to stopping them. Let’s learn from the past and stand against division.

#HistoryMatters #NeverAgain #UnityOverHate

[-] PangurBan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

We're in a civil war right now. This is what it looks like.

But it can get a lot worse.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My roommate watched a woman get dragged from her wrecked car, bleeding and screaming for help, being disappeared by ICE. They were recording and I've seen the video. I'll probably never forget it. I carry a whistle now but I pray I'll never need it. We're like two weeks into whatever the fuck this is and I'm already sick of it. I'm tired of running to the window every time I hear a car alarm, I'm tired of wondering if I hear the wind or a whistle. I'm tired of worrying about more people I know getting abducted, and scrutinizing every vehicle that drives past if they're going to fuck with me because I'm visibly queer and also trying not to be mistaken for the gestapo occupying my city. Is this an occupation? And I know war is worse. Fuck all of this.

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[-] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

The question is what the alternative would be. Look at history for the answer. The easy comparison would be Germany leading up to, during, and after World War 2, but that would be low-hanging fruit considering how very directly the US regime is trying to force other countries to join them. (Anschluss, anyone?) Look also at the countries where extremist regimes took over and didn't get forced out until years later and the damages they did to their country and the people living in it. Unfortunately too many examples there to name. The US regime and their stormtroopers will continue to harass, arrest, and outright kill people who have a legal right to live in the US simply over the color of their skin or otherwise until they are stopped. And they will most assuredly not stop by the power of fingerwagging and strongly stated words.

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Forget civil war. Mass protests in the US would look like what is happening in Iran.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

https://www.generalstrikeus.com/ forget initiating bloodshed, sign a strike card. In a world of paramilitary forces and drone capabilities, this is our true power.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Doubtful, the average American doesn't have the cardio to walk that long. It would be a bunch of cars honking while the driver watches football on the phone and eats cheeseburgers.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Answering a question that who asked? Who would think war is a video game? Everyone's a badass until they're on the wrong end of a shooting range. If war causes infrastructure collapse to shipping of critical supplies like foods and fuels tens of millions could die, or more. Exposure, lack of meds (like insulin, anti-rejection, etc.), and lack of clean water will wipe out a huge number of people, too.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 months ago

A Civil War II will probably end up at best leading to a Mad Max scenario or at worst, a Fallout scenario.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

The next "civil war" will just be a series of Luigi-like instances. My prediction is that the justice system will simply start failing to get grand jury indictments like they did with the ham sandwhich throwing incident.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A real civil war wouldn't last longer than three weeks here in the US. A small group of whacked-out people love the idea of it, but they certainly have not thought it through. It's just a fun thought for them because they have never cracked open a history book and don't have any real perspective regarding what war actually means.

This is the country that couldn't go three weeks without a haircut or toilet paper in 2020. People would walk into their first empty grocery store, toting their big impressive AR-15 rifles, and then demand that the war be ended.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago

I doubt that America as we know it can survive, period. There needs to be a change - whether that's about wealth classes, political beliefs, or various -isms. We can't use a system that was intentionally broken to fix things. The words of slavers from 250 years ago are too weak. The way that things have developed across the regions of this massive, unwieldy, federation needs amendment.

Unfortunately, right now the pendulum is swinging hard in one direction. There's no meaningful fighters on the other side. So us little people have to cling to hope - and that hope is increasingly looking like it has to come from force, and from the barrel of a gun.

[-] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

There’s simply too much centralized power there. You need something more of a union of independent states with very limited “federal” power, much like the EU. Sure, there will never be a clean consensus on anything, but at least there’s no chance a single grifter can seize so much power to wield that they can basically just do whatever to whoever within the federation and beyond.

[-] evol@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Baudrillard has a (3?) part essay on how the gulf war never really happened, which by that he meant how we in the West understood the war is that of a media event rather than that of real war. At least that's the heavily simplified version of it. Alot of people's imagery of a war is essentially like drone footage and headlines about Gaza, Few of us can comprehend the idea of being in an active war. I have relatives who have and their anecdotes make war seems more normal and scary the same time.

We really do not know what we are getting ourselves into.

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