15
Allegedly most valuable company on the planet in all of history (can't afford books). Allegedly not a bubble or fraud.
Sadly I think it's more that there isn't really a standard way to buy books and other media in bulk at the scale of which AI training usually requires. So the companies realise they can save both time and money in just pirating after calculating the fine risk. Its just a bonus that they usually get away with it and that the fines would likely be cheaper than a legit transaction. But i do think it's the bulk data packaging that makes piracy look more attractive to them at the get-go.
Heck, even video game publishers often source their roms for their official re-releases from pirated copies because pirates are better at preserving data and keeping it in a nice friendly format. Easier to search for it on the web and download it then it is too goo into their own archives and rip it themselves, if they even still have original copies, cause they sure as hell didn't keep their source code.
I dont know why but this is all so funny and ridicolous to me.
Infuriating too, but so ridicolous. Like, capitalism is proving how much it sucks for it to need to go against its own rules. Like it always did this but now it is so pathetically clear.
So the amend alleges, Nvidia having used/stored/copied/obtained/distributed copyrighted works (including plaintiffs'), both through databases available on Hugging Face ('Books3' featured in both 'The Pile' and 'SlimPajama'), or pirating from shadow libraries (like Anna's Archive), to train multiple LLMs (primarily their 'NeMo Megatron' series), and distributing the copyrighted data through the 'NeMo Megatron Framework'; data which was ultimately sourced from shadow libraries.
It's quite an interesting read actually, especially the link to this Anna's Archive blog post. Which it grossly pulls out of context, as plaintiffs clearly despise the shadow libraries too: as they have ultimately provided access to their copyrighted material.
Especially the part: "Most (but not all!) US-based companies reconsidered once they realized the illegal nature of our work. By contrast, Chinese firms have enthusiastically embraced our collection, apparently untroubled by its legality." makes me wonder if that's the reason why models like Deepseek, initially blew Western models out of the water.
It would be so funny if this ended with Nvidia getting robbed.
AA might be digging their own grave. Overtime the knowledge gets accumulated in the hands of a select few and then they're gonna block people from accessing pirated sites like AA or even worse, AA gets shutdown due to lack of traffic.
I support the destruction of copyright. Humanity should have free access to media, be it for enhancing their commercial products or for individuals to develop their personhood.
We need to remove any copyright from whatever is developed by the AI companies.
If the AI can use copyrighted material without compensating the owners, then it should be free for everyone to use/own the content AI creates
Will they be sued per book?
It's not stealing when corpos do it.
Meta torrented their training data from the pirate bay. Hell, Spotify initially built their catalog from pirated music. They all do this shit. Corporations are built to steal our shit and sell it back to us. This isn't any different from pumping oil out of pubic lands and selling it back to us.
wish meta had torrented all the viruses, too, would be fun to read the news of "facebook and instagram are offline as meta suffers from cyberattack"
Wait, so piracy is theft?
Not if it's the rich guys doing it.
this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2026
15 points (100.0% liked)
Technology
83498 readers
396 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS