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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by bdonvr@thelemmy.club to c/android@lemmy.world

All the other discussions I found on Lemmy dismiss it because they find the idea of a second phone ridiculous. Or because they don't buy into the "dumb phone" concept. But I think it makes a compelling phone on it's own, and you wouldn't need a second.

But really look into it. By every indication it appears designed to be a fully featured main phone. It has some compromises made to fit the keyboard first philosophy, but it has everything you'd need and more. Dual SIM (eSIM+physical), a headphone jack, micro SD Card support, a 50mp camera with OIS (I know megapixels don't mean much but I think it shows it's not gonna be the cheapest crap camera), NFC/Google Pay support, Android Auto, Qi2... That doesn't read "second phone" to me. It's just.... phone.

They have now said that it will have an unlockable bootloader too. I'm not finding much to dislike here. 8GB of RAM is somewhat low but should be fine. The processor is still a question mark but honesty as long as it's not bottom of the barrel it should be perfectly fine. I have always gone for flagship phones but honestly I've started analyzing what I actually do on my phone and I pretty much never push the hardware. I like knowing I have the top of the line but I basically just web browse, message, read email, scroll Lemmy, and listen to music/podcasts. Very occasionally watch some YouTube but that's usually on my TV or PC. No gaming or anything. I should be able to do all of that on this device, some of it won't be as good on that screen obviously but it should still be doable. I need the camera to at least be decent. Not great just not garbage. Like it's fine if the low light performance is meh and the video isn't the best. But I don't want to look at my photos and regret taking it with that device, so we'll see.

I don't want a dumb phone, and I don't think this is one. You should be able to do everything any other phone can. I don't think it's a second phone either. I think they're just leaning into that for marketing reasons, so that when anyone points out the tradeoffs of this form factor they can just wave it away as a secondary device.

It appeals to me because it's a small phone. Seriously nobody makes one worth using. Unihertz sure, if you want a bad software experience with no updates ever. But otherwise you just have the non-plus sized iPhone/Galaxy S. Those are considered small. Or maybe the flip-foldables. It also appeals to me because it has major character and (imo) style. I'm bored of glass and metal sandwiches. Give me this! A plastic device with a swappable back that has a (vegan?) leather option? Hell yeah.

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago

8gig of RAM is a bit low

Manufacturers are going to ship laptops with 8gb ram in 2026!!

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

My smart phone has 6GB of RAM. I've managed.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

Oh wow, my incredibly snappy phone currently has 8GB of ram.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ram Good God! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing unless your cloud computing.

James Brown's zombie, probably.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 5 points 3 months ago

I'm not thrilled about the processor, but this guy is still on my radar because of the physical keyboard and expandable storage, not upset to see a headphone jack either.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago

Do they even say what processor it has? All I see is "4-nanometer, 5G IoT SoC platform from MediaTek" which means nothing to me.

[-] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No, they are waiting to announce. People have speculated as there's only a few that would be viable.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It would really have to be bad for me to hate it I think. I don't do anything that needs crazy performance, I've come to realize.

[-] btsax@reddthat.com 5 points 3 months ago

I might be in the minority here but I will not use a phone that I can't strip Google Play and other Google services out of, so it would need support from something like Lineage, Graphene, e, Linux, etc before I would consider it.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago

I mean they said the bootloader is unlockable so at least being able to disable Google services should be possible. We'll see how community support goes.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

If it's flashable and the community support is good enough then this might be my next device. Will have to check on it once the community drops support for my ancient secondhand phone. XD

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Why the hell would I want a "second phone"? I don't like my first phone. I want a phone that I don't hate, not a second phone to add to my misery.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I think the intent is to be a "work device"

A lot of companies will be lazy or have a BYOD policy. You will likely be asked to install extra security and monitoring software on your personal device to view work related info or check email.

The simple way to avoid this is to just get a second phone, and given how this device is has a smaller profile than a mid-range smart phone, its a good marketing bit.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not a clue. Wouldn't want that either. That's why I want it as my only phone....

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

All the other discussions I found on Lemmy dismiss it because they find the idea of a second phone ridiculous. Or because they don’t buy into the “dumb phone” concept.

Looks like OP made a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I thought I made it clear what I was trying to say. This looks like a good phone on it's own. Like sell your old phone and buy this to replace it. Not a second phone.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Wow, I kind of hate that I don't really need a new phone right now. And just bought a new GPU. This looks awesome.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

I think the only compromise is that it doesn't have a flagship camera and a smaller screen which is a given for the keyboard. Not sure how the IP rating will be, though. But it looks really promising as a phone that would suit the majority of people who aren't trying to use their phone as a gaming console

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If it has even decent custom ROM support I would 100% consider it. I hate it as a second device but as a main I love the design.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Someone in the last thread said that the Mediatek SOC makes ROM support unlikely.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This looks awesome and would consider looking more into it as a real alternative to the current crap, BUT....

  • I will never buy a product that isn't already produced and ready to ship. Funding campaigns like this are imo most likely scams, very often not serious and if they truly are great, I'd rather wait for V2 or V3 to come, before buying

  • the physical keyboard is great for english users but terrible for people who need to use 2 or 3 languages on their phones.

  • I need android or iPhone to run the local authentication apps for banking, doctors appointments app and even some times payment methods

[-] oOAlteredBeastOo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm into it. Would make a great work device. The power keyboard product also looks like an interesting product.

Clicks Power Keyboard

[-] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That's a cool idea

[-] GMac@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

Anyone got a a link to the unlockable bootloader confirmation?
If that's confirmed, its a big deal - to me at least though I'd also want some comments or info from clicks about other OSs running on the device?

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago

Warning: reddit link

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClicksKeyboard/comments/1qjldo5/comment/o12ylej/

Whether or not we'll actually see full ROMs or Linux distros isn't going to really be knowable until developers have one in hand.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Reddit links are safe these days since my filter has them blocked.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Best I could find was a reddit AMA from the cofounders of the company, who say in one of the replies that you can request a code to unlock the bootloader. (Ctrl + F bootloader should show it up.)

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 months ago

256GB on-board + expandable MicroSD card storage up to 2TB

$400. Reservation 200.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

"Smart enough" would have been nice marketing, no?

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

Same. It would definitely be my daily driver. I'm using the Minimal Phone now but have often found that I would rather have this same form factor with a regular screen, and the Communicator seems to basically be that. I am still deciding if I want to pre-order but I've set a reminder to do or don't before the window closes.

According to the support ticket I put in a week or so ago, the bootloader will be unlockable which is great news.

The only thing the specs don't mention is how much RAM it will have.

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[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I agree, I would totally but it as a main phone. Especially if it gets Lineage OS!

But last year I already bought F(x)tec Pro 1X, which is also a great keyboard phone and I usually don't update phones too often 🙂

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

$499 no thanks.

$200, Linux. I'll accept no less. And take your AI crap and you can cram it up your ass.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

This Lemmy comment will be performed in the voice of that fat British guy on Youtube shorts that talks about marketing

You see, the problem with marketing it as a "second phone" is that you're implying that it's too shit to be someone's first phone. Or that you've chosen to do something to it that would make it impossible to live with.

I remember in 2018, Verizon started offering a tiny little Android phone branded as a Palm of all things, and that small but vocal minority who insist they want small phones started clamoring for it only to be told that it's a "companion device" and you still had to have another device active on that line. It cost $350 plus $10 a month on top of another device and plan.

There was essentially no one on earth who wanted a special phone they only used to take to the gym with them, they refused to sell it to people who specifically wanted it, and so it didn't sell well, to say the least.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The screenshot looks like Niagara Launcher.

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