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submitted 3 months ago by Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I have used Arch for >13 years (btw) and use the terminal every single session. I also work with Linux servers daily, so I tried the other families with DEs (Debian/Ubuntu, RHEL/CentOS/AlmaLinux/Fedora).

I'm comfortable (and prefer) doing everything with CLI tools. For me, it's a bit difficult to convert my Windows friends, as they all see me as some kind of hackerman.

What's the landscape like nowadays, in terms of terminal requirements?

Bonus question: Which distribution is the most user-friendly while still updated packages? Does anything provide a similar experience to Arch's amazing AUR?

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Does anything provide a similar experience to Arch’s amazing AUR

I am not aware of any software distribution service with a comparable experience (massive userbase with zero vetting for uploaders) as Arch's amazing AUR - if you are looking for a way to distribute malware to many unsuspecting people (who's friends think they're hackerman), it's really unparalleled. (😢)

To your primary question, yes, many people do successfully daily drive various Linux distros without ever opening the terminal. 🙄

[-] khanh@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Rep to bonus question: Fedora, or any Ubuntu-based distro.

[-] khanh@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Definetely yes for years now. However, CLI is still preferred.

[-] luluberlue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

"User-friendly" and "updated" sadly sounds incompatible. In just slightly less than one year of using Fedora I've had 3 bad qt updates that broke kde's softwares like kmail, 2 bad amd-gpu updates that made the gpu crash and 1 pipewire update that broke surround sound.

Those were all minor updates that were easy to revert though, just had to use the terminal for that and wait the next fixed version.

[-] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

You make it sound like Fedora is a lot less stable than Arch. I've had one update go wrong in 10 years lol

[-] luluberlue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

My problem being quite package specific, it's not impossible, the biggest offender being qt...

[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] urbanmoth@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Been using Fedora Workstation as my daily driver on my main gaming rig (and casual work machine) for over 7 years now; in the early days, yes CLI was necessary but I actually can't remember the last time I needed the CLI to configure anything on that machine. I use it to ssh into my homelab and that's it.

I also installed Fedora on a Pixlebook Go Chromebook (I am using to type this now) a year or so ago, I use this machine for casual web browsing, and playing games via GeForce Now (Excellent btw), and beyond the slightly complex effort to get Fedora stable on it at the start, I have not touched the terminal since then, and that includes a couple of upgrades from F41 to F43.

Honestly the main distro's are more than ready for the 'grandma' test, from about six months ago my eldest daughter (21) is rocking Fedora on her ageing laptop which I installed for her when she complained that it was 'getting slow' on Windows, she is an artist, has zero interest or knowledge of computers and has not come back since for any issue, she uses it daily.

[-] medem@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 months ago

I know at least two people who have been using Ubuntu as a daily driver for years and have never (as in, ever) touched the terminal.

[-] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'd say 90% of usage can be done without the terminal especially if you just use Linux to browse the web or check email or other things that are mundane.

Anything past that, there is a good chance you'll have to use the terminal. That said, I think its easier than ever with lots of people making the switch and asking questions on Lemmy or other forums.

[-] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I use Fedora Workstation. I do use the terminal, each morning I install my updates by typing "sudo dnf upgrade" and enter the password. When that is done I type "syncthing" to start that service. The rest of the day I don't touch the terminal.

I could install the updates through the "software store" but terminal is faster and no reboot is required, afaik.

Once in a while I do update an app which is almost as easy. Download the rpm file (typically there is a link in the app that needs updating) open terminal, cd Downloads, ls, sudo dnf install "package name", password, exit.

For context, I started on Linux last April. Previous "laptop" was an android tablet with a physical keyboard and mouse. I did buy a used Thinkpad and install Fedora myself which was very easy.

My 75 year old father, who isn't a techie, can handle this. Your Window buds should be able to as well.

[-] GaumBeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I choose to use terminal because I can update my software without requiring a restart (I used Debian btw); for some reason, GNOME's Software app cannot do this without restarting. I also prefer terminal-based text-editing for coding and scripting.

Depending on use-case, you can absolutely just use the distro without ever touching the terminal. It requires extra work to sift through all the online advice and docs that center around CLI commands though. The Average Windows User won't be digging that deep in their system to customize the shit out of it like an Arch user, so they won't need to touch the stuff that can only be accessed via command line. The Above Average Windows User will already be comfortable with the command prompt anyway.

Which distribution is the most user-friendly while still updated packages?

All of them? Why would a distro choose to be hostile to its users? (/s)

I assume you mean "beginner friendly"? In that case, I would stick to Debian: more stability than windows, harder to break than Arch, and lighter-weight than Fedora.

Those are the only 3 I've daily driven in the past couple of years, and that's my takeaways. I can't give informed input on any of the popular derivatives, except Ubuntu which I did use for awhile (back in 2014-2016): it was more prone to breaking shit than Debian, less beginner-friendly too (fuck Snaps, and fuck your Pro subscription data-harvesting up-selling bullshit).

[-] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

there's three thing I use the terminal for:

Updating my apps and systems Running development apps Quick and easy edits or file movements

[-] harfang@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago
[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Tbh even if I could I wouldn't want to, the terminal is so much better for many things. I advise new users to become comfortable with it at least by following along with a few "linux terminal basics" vids like it's a class.

[-] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago
[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago

Less needed than on Windows.

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