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[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Tim.. suing everyone else wont make epic store a great place to buy games

Look to GOG for inspiration…

[-] Tuscy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

He’s just salty because the only games people “purchase” are the weekly free ones.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I don't even bother with those anymore. I never play the free ones I have, because I'd have to use Epic's software.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Playnite is the better choice if you're on Windows, but either way, don't let Tim's dumb store stop you from ruining his day by generating a bunch of metrics that show you're only playing freebies!

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Keep collecting them. Each one you get costs Epic money and helps counter some of that Fortnite cash that lets Epic keep paying for exclusive contracts. Keep bleeding them and eventually they won't be able to keep buying exclusive releases.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Epic pays a flat rate to offer games for free, they don't pay per download.

Downloading them just helps Epic inflate their "active users" number when talking to investors.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Not even. I've bought games on Steam that I forgot I had in Epic because Epic is just that trash. Fuck Epic for trying to start their store by bribing developers for exclusivity on their platform. Bitch ass tactics to begin with and then crying and whining when their mob mentality strong arming didn't work. Best believe if their shit had worked and they became popular those greedy assholes would be asking a higher percentage once everyone was locked in.

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[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 week ago

Has epic games developed anything like Proton? Valve isn't just a store.

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[-] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

Steam is the last company that has held out against enshittification.

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

It feels like all the other corpos are mad and want to sue Valve to force them into enshittification.

I'm all for holding companies accountable - when legal pressure forced Valve into creating a return policy, I was happy for that. But this is a $900 Million nothing burger imo. Publishers are mad they can't get the exposure and sales numbers on a cheaper platform. Cheaper platforms are mad that they still can't get people to switch to them by significantly under-cutting Steam. That's (publishers) customers mad they have to pay a 'premium' (basically the 'market rate' for the service before epic decided to start under-cutting btw) for a better service and the competition mad that a LOT of (publishers) customers are willing to pay that 'premium'.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

That’s why they are getting sued.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

Their store UI could be better, searching the database by conditions and clearly seeing why something isn't available in your region\country\demographic would be good.

But at the same time it's good enough for me to even be thinking about such conveniences.

Also I've remembered recently my dad saying some 6 years ago that nobody makes convenient UIs because it's bad for commerce. A UI filled with suffering allows you to charge for directed solutions. And if a UI isn't filled with suffering, there must be something else. Like Telegram and VK which are convenient to use (compared to WhatsApp and Facebook and ...), but are Russian special services' honeypots.

Convenience is a weapon. And a very expensive one, if Steam store's UI were more convenient, the load on servers would probably be 10x what it is, for a similar structure of purchases, except probably harder to direct.

[-] tharien@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[-] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well... duh. The guy runs a competing storefront who's only claims to fame are:

  1. Spending a bunch of money for timed exclusivity and free giveaways, rather than building out core features.
  2. They give devs a better cut than Steam to claim moral high ground.

... that's it, that's all the reasons to use Epic, unless you want to play Fortnite or participate in an Early Access period where they chose Epic to reduce the overwhelming amount of feedback like Hades.

[-] xtools@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

Tim Sweeney can gargle my ballsack

[-] DizzyMoth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The only interesting argument I heard about this demand was that when you buy game you are tie to respective store, and you cannot buy content like dlc outside that store. I wpukd be amazing for the customers if thus wasn't the case

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

“They charge developers too much!”

“Ok, Tim, so how exactly do you make money for your company, then? Because giving away all the free stuff seems like awfully bad business.”

Never thought I’d be defending a company charging a lot of money but since Steam actually does provide an excellent, stable service with bonuses like Linux development and the Steam Deck I mean, I really ain’t that mad, especially they still offer really good sales.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

“They charge developers too much!”

So you should be able to undercut them, right? Right?

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only reason I had an epic account was for their free giveaway. And now that I’ve switched to bazzite, and considering their poor Linux support, I’m inclined to just cut bait on them.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Reminder: Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has defended child pornography, saying that stopping it is "gatekeeping".

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago

is that Valve's policies and position as the leading distribution service in PC gaming means publishers are effectively blocked from selling games and add-ons at lower prices on competing stores

I still don't get this. As far as I can find, Steam doesn't allow steam keys to be sold cheaper elsewhere, but they don't bother with prices of games in other stores.

And doesn't Epic have a bunch of games exclusive to their store?

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I still don't get this. As far as I can find, Steam doesn't allow steam keys to be sold cheaper elsewhere, but they don't bother with prices of games in other stores.

This is tricky. Officially Valve doesn't have any rules about non-Steam game prices on other stores. Unofficially evidence has been put forward by way of emails between developers and Valve that seem to show that Valve unofficially requires price parity with other stores and will punish games that offer lower prices elsewhere.

The charitable interpretation is that their policies are worded confusingly and some of their agents are misinterpreting the rule requiring Steam key prices to be uniform as applying to non-Steam keys. The uncharitable interpretation is that Valve knows such a policy would get them in hot water with anti-monopoly laws and so they're careful to make sure it stays an unofficial policy.

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Is that the Epic that agreed to six-year $800 million partnership with Google recently?

DRM free, launcher free games or fuck off.

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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

No instead epic charges 12%, and if you use unreal engine but don't sell on egs they get a 5% royalty fee on all your sales. Sure those number are lower but egs isn't out here "empowering" devs

[-] lofuw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Epic would charge Steam's fees if they had Steam's marketshare.

Everyone thinking they care about creators or customers is a fucking moron.

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[-] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

although I like a lot of what Valve does (I have a lot of Steam games, valve games, have a steam deck oled, use steamvr, etc) they are a fairly flawed company. sweeney is so great at shooting himself in the foot though that any opinion he has people will by default believe the opposite of (and probably should)

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

I'm really tired of seeing this idiot quoted.

[-] Auster@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 week ago

I was almost forgetting Tim's whole deal seems to be antagonizing more successful companies than his.

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