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Russia Cannot Accept NATO Troops in Ukraine Under Security Guarantees - Foreign Ministry (sputnikglobe.com)

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[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't trust NATO. They should have been dissolved decades ago

[-] Tuscy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I wonder how many nato politicians are in the Epstein list or something parallel to that.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

My money is on all of them

[+] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -9 points 2 days ago

Right. Putin would love it if NATO didn't exist, because then there would be nothing stopping him from expanding the Russian empire all the way to the Atlantic.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Let us know when Russia has 900 military bases around the world

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago

They don't need 900 military bases around the world to invade their neighbors and steal their land.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Whataboutism. I'll take you seriously when I see you as invested in Western imperialism as you are now.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago

"Whataboutism" is when you try and change the subject. Like, when someone says "Russia likes to invade their neighbors", and the response is, "whatabout the US having 900 bases around the world?"

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

No, what about is keeping quiet while your country does it but then scream "what about the russian savages".

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

First of all...not "my country".

Second...that's not how this conversation went. We're in a post that is talking about the Russia / Ukraine invasion. Calling it what it is, is not "whataboutism". It is directly addressing the topic at hand.

"Whataboutism", is trying to distract from that, with all the "US bad" misdirections. Yeah. We all know the US is bad. No one is disputing that. But Russia can't just dictate how Ukraine defends itself, especially when Russia is the one attacking them.

If someone was punching you in the face, and told you they'd only stop if you dropped your guard...would you?

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What about the entirety of the European army? What about simple reality? Do you think that just because the West is expansive and invasive like cancer that Russia necessarily will be that way? You understand how the war in Ukraine took place and how America couped them, right? That Ukraine is in everything but name (but even in the theatrics you can see it) an American proxy state? Is that why others also fear China, because they associate capacity for murder and power to bloodthirst and amorality since that's all they know?