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PieFed Users Surge! (piefed.co.za)
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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.

And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.

IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.

So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.

[-] Complexicate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's a good example of the Paradox of Tolerance:

"if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance"

[-] Blaze@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago
[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I sure hope these are users and not bots...

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

It's from a few promotional posts on Reddit, so it's users.

[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.

Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.

Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

[-] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 0 points 26 minutes ago

Piefed is clearly an honeypot, you need to have severe brain injury to not understand it.

“ah…i cant wait to have my hidden social score, let’s join this unknown pit of shite.” -not a cop

[-] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 1 day ago

I'm now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.

Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?

Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as "See ? Piefed's staff censorship ideas they doesn't agree."

I went to the your gif and read comments : you won't see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.

Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.

Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev's political opinions but that's not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev's channel, i helped him. :)

Let's go back to your post :

  • The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
  • The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag...
  • opiniated ? A software isn't neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit. :)
  • Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads...we are better of on the fediverse, don't you think ?

You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote...and explain your point, why this and that...but not the way you did.

So please edit your comment and remove those above part

Users can choose what they prefer :

  • the way communities are moderated and managed
  • their software and its features, ui...

And i'm happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that's great. :)

[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.

I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.

[-] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 hour ago

Your "source" is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn't create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn't invite people to share their thinking, people react.

That's quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?

No, i'm not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I'm asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above...

[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I have already had a proper space for discussion. I’ve been civil in the replies. This is crazy to even be arguing about. If it’s a meme, why do you care? Are we to just discuss and bicker on the internet or create a better space?

Remove it if you want for not conforming to your rules of speech. I’m done.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

Almost all of these are able to be turned off.

By "social credit" you just mean a toned down version of Reddits karma (that doesn't track positive score)?

[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.

[-] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 1 day ago

You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.

There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.

  • Reputation is people's reaction to your comment and post.
  • attitude is how you vote. If you do mass downvote, your ability to downvote is removed until you reach a balance between upvote/downvote.

When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it's easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That's why posting gif doesn't credit you reputation. You can't use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.

That's why it works like that.

[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Personally I'm fine with a comment getting removed if all they replied with is "this." Sure that's opinionated, but it's a good opinion.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

It can be turned off anyway, most of the others do turn it off.

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 6 points 1 day ago

His source is ml, you can easily take his comment as malicious

[-] john_t@piefed.ee 51 points 2 days ago

There are dozens of us!

[-] rimu@piefed.social 43 points 2 days ago

piefed.social's server is coping fine but I recommend new people join any other instance. Look for one with a rocket or lightning icon - https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 13 points 2 days ago

What do the rocket and lightning icons mean?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago

server speed

rocket - fast lightning - medium

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

But lightning is faster than rockets... What? This doesn't make any sense at all!

[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 9 points 2 days ago

Phew. Picked my instance based on vibes alone, but it turned out good anyway. Didn't even know about the speed ratings.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Hm, I wouldn't have known rocket is faster, since lightning is instantaneous in real life.

Perhaps a speedometer at different speeds and color chunks (low adds first 3rd is filled green, medium adds yellow to the next 3rd, fast adds red to last chunk) would be more intuitive? Though that could also be interpreted as server capacity if the word speed isn't next to the icon. Maybe a little icon legend somewhere nearby could help, or a question mark sign next to the speed icon that explains what it is?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, probably.

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[-] bibbasa@piefed.social 30 points 2 days ago

eyyy, i'm one of those. long time mastodon user, but was always intimidated by lemmy, piefed seems a lot more friendly.

[-] texture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

friendly like community or software experience?

[-] biltong@piefed.co.za 29 points 2 days ago

I wish there was an option for the graph to start at zero. Graphs like this can be misleading.

[-] squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi 4 points 17 hours ago

I just found out you can freely increase the number of days via the URL on fediverse.observer

https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=2000

Now the graph starts at 0

@HubertManne@piefed.social @EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za

[-] biltong@piefed.co.za 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

image
That graph looks pretty good. 🚀

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 20 points 2 days ago

Where's the increase coming from? Users changing from Lemmy or new users to the theadiverse? (I fucking hate that word)

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

i heard its being promoted on reddit, could be from there.

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[-] October1@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Piefed is a different reddit-like software that federates with Lemmy. It's a different take on the same thing that Lemmy is providing, but still compatible with everything, so a piefed user can see and respond to your comment even if you're on Lemmy.

Piefed also has some neat features unique to it, such as:

  • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
  • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
  • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

lemmy with extra censorship tools

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