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Gravity is all in your head (media.piefed.world)
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[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Does Andrew not know about Airplanes or has he being trying to fly like Goku?

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

I remember when New Age sold me on Idealism.

Here's the thing. It's bullshit.

History has many examples of men who fell to their deaths believing God would stop the fall.

One of them was actually a guy who claimed to be the second coming of Jesus. Claimed he'd miraculously fly on a donkey.

Fell right off the cliff and debunked his whole religion he did.

[-] Grail@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Actually, I'm going to offer a counterargument.

There's lots of flat earthers who conducted experiments to determine if the earth is flat, and got the result they wanted. My favourite is the guy who brought a spirit level on a plane. When the level didn't move, he said it was proof the earth was flat. He was wrong, because he interpreted the results of his experiment wrong. His method didn't test what he said it did.

I think your Jesus 2 is like the plane level guy. His method is wrong, it doesn't test what he's trying to test. Or at least, doesn't test realism vs idealism. What it does test is whether his own espoused beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality. So that guy is wrong to say that he can perform the miracle of flight. But I argue there's a lot of grey area in between "This one guy's beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality" and "naive realism is true".

What I believe is that there exist rules of psychology which operate at a deeper level than our own surface level beliefs. For example, sometimes I'm really mad with My partner because we had a fight and I believe that My life is worse without it. But then I go to bed, and in the morning I remember how much I love it, and we make up. I had a belief, but it was not the truth of My being. The deeper truth was My great love for it.

Your Jesus 2 fellow perhaps didn't believe that he could fly on a donkey, in his heart of hearts. On a surface level, maybe he believed it, but I'm not convinced it was the core of his being. I think it would have been much easier for him to persuade the core of his being that he could fly, if he had been in the cockpit of an airplane.

I don't actually believe in airplanes, I think they're just a symbol in our conscious interface, as Donald Hoffman argues. But I think airplanes are connected to some rule of our psychology that allows us to fly under certain conditions. And to our limited point of view, that rule looks a lot like an airplane.

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don’t actually believe in airplanes, I think they’re just a symbol in our conscious interface, as Donald Hoffman argues. But I think airplanes are connected to some rule of our psychology that allows us to fly under certain conditions. And to our limited point of view, that rule looks a lot like an airplane.

Couldn't you test this by having someone attempt to use a fake radio believing it's real?

I mean if that were true, wouldn't ANY air plane work? Wouldn't it be impossible to improve on the design of airplanes if it's all belief?

[-] Grail@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It's not all belief, and I'm not saying it's all belief. I'm saying the laws of physics that appear to us through our senses are actually laws of psychology. But they are still laws. I believe we have a better chance of understanding them and building technology to overcome them if we use both physics and psychology at once on the problem. But deception and self-delusion are not especially powerful psychological techniques, so I would not expect them to work very well in this situation.

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 6 days ago

Darwin Awards in action.

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

I bet he knew, but at that point he'd talked himself into a corner with his followers and had no choice but to jump or face the shame.

Wish Trump had the balls to feel shame

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Nah, you just need enough faith to see that he actually flew.

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Go on Andrew you can do it we all believe in you, try it right now and show the haters!

[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

EDIT: It appears that another party has published the contents of my journal before me, currently with a resounding 15 upvotes. I believe this previous poster is a farce. A Telvanni spy sent to ridicule my work.

"I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success."

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

When there's a smile in your heart There's no better time to start Think of all the joy you'll find When you leave the world behind And bid your cares goodbye You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly!

[-] me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Birds are not real. They are government spy drones. Lockdown was to recharge their batteries! (sarcasm obviously dont ban me please)

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Everyone can fly. Not everyone can land.

[-] PDFuego@lemmy.world 133 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure everyone my age who saw the episode of Dragon Ball Z where Gohan teaches Videl how to fly all sat there that day and fuckin tried our hardest.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One of the consequences of getting older is that you forget what its like to simply not know things.

My two year old son is constantly climbing up stuff and tumbling off it without any regard to the possibility that gravity might be holding him back. Every time he lands hard, he looks at me with tears in his eyes, as though the whole world has betrayed him. If you could just fly by not understand gravity, everyone under the age of six would be levitating constantly.

Although, in Andrew's case, it might be less "getting older" and more "getting repeatedly concussed".

[-] IggyTheSmidge@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

Just wait 'til he turns 3 - that's when they gain the teleportation skill.

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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

I do remember thinking something along the lines of: "... that.... sounds weirdly do-able.....?? .... Shut up, brain.... Unless......"

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[-] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 125 points 1 week ago

The secret is that you have to throw yourself at the ground and miss.

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago

I remember reading that for the first time at 13 and thinking it was the smartest fucking thing I had ever read. It makes perfect sense too. Sadly my aim is impeccable.

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

According to catholics, that's how sex works too. Too bad they're all sharpshooters...

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago

It's basically how orbiting works in a roundabout way. You just needed to go faster!

[-] foofiepie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

in a roundabout way

Very good.

[-] derry@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago

Tell that to a whale or bowl of petunias that suddenly materialized in the atmosphere of a planet with gravity

[-] DetachablePianist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago
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[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 week ago
[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I only just noticed who the OOP was

[-] beetus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Got whiplash seeing it was him.

[-] nyankas@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Franz Reichelt, the Flying Tailor, seemed to be pretty sure he could fly when, in 1912, he tried testing a wingsuit he designed himself. By jumping from the Eiffel Tower. He could not fly.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Some crazy person eventually got their fancy wing suit to actually work eventually.

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't tell the difference between Andrew Tate accounts and Andrew Tate parody accounts. Wonder if he's trying to lay the groundwork for an insanity defense?

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[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

But I get a ~~stupid-looking~~ sweet hat off that body, plus scrolls containing a new and hilarious way to commit suicide!

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[-] Rokin@leminal.space 19 points 1 week ago

With the Scrolls of Icarian Flight, flying is not the problem, but the landing.

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[-] Hupf@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 15 points 1 week ago

A friend of mine came close once. In Morrowind, he made a jumping potion that allowed him to clear the entire island and two jumps. one from the edge of the map to the top of the mountain, and then another one to the other edge of the island. He got stunned at the end of that last fall and drowned in about a foot of water.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single pilot in the world

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single ~~pilot~~ precipice in the world

[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure trying to fly is a pretty common experience, and many of those people tried really really hard.

I did. I settled on doing it with mechanical help.

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[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

When I was a kid my older sister fooled me into believing that if I made daily sacrifice of a specific flower in a valley near my home at exactly 6am I'd get to fly and even eat the clouds. I did that for almost a month before my mom told me the truth.

[-] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

there's a special word for people trying to make someone else fly; defenestration

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