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This article fails to mention that the trucking and excavation company hired to do the work abandoned the project after not getting paid.
Remind me again about the time that adding any capacity to any road resolved traffic congestion.
Tacoma narrows
Ontario's MAGA Premiere is spending millions in a feasibility study to build multi-lane tunnels under a highway 14 lanes wide at points.
He never graduate high school.
"Just one more lane, bro! We'll fix traffic! Just one more lane..."
Burying the lanes doesn't make them less subject to the geometry of cars.
Because it worked so well the first time around....
I thought Las Vegas was only dumb enough to do this "Elon badly reinvents mass transit" thing, but this makes sense given my experience of Tennessee.
Tennessee is one of the dumbest places I have ever been. It isn't that the people are inherently stupid it is that the ideas people pass around, promote and believe are dumb as fuck there. It hurt my brain being in Tennessee and I hope to never go back.
I'd point out that in the article, the city leadership hates the idea. It's going through anyway because the Governor and state leadership are overruling the mayor and city council.
This is why I don't have a problem when big cities tell the state (or feds) to fuck off.
My family lives there, and I agree. Also, I've never experienced as blatant racism as in Tennessee.
Also, I've never experienced as blatant racism as in Tennessee.
Texan here: I've never seen or heard the kind of blatant racism that I found everywhere north and east of Tennessee's southwest corner.
I have a hypothesis on this, though. I think that the more pervasive that anti-racist beliefs are, that the more overt a racist needs to be so that they can make sure everyone knows they're a racist. Inversely, in a place like Texas where racism is more ingrained in society, you can be quieter and assume that you're talking to someone with racist beliefs. Then, a sort of perverse set of manners are formed where you don't blatantly say racist things—in fact, you gasp at bald-faced racism, clutch your pearls, and call that person uncouth.
But when you pass a series of miniature racist tests, or blow just the right dog-whistle, then you get the Southern racist's cry of approval: "this guy gets it!"
It's kinda like how moderately wealthy people like to flaunt their money, and make little comments around poor people to prove just how disconnected they are from reality. But then, when they're surrounded by other rich people, it's suddenly impolite to discuss wealth.
Interesting. It was less what people said and more me realizing why we were sitting in Pizza Hutt for 1.5 hours (my wife was dark skinned). I only figured it out when 2 other groups had come and left, and we were still waiting for a pizza.
For me, it was my neighbors when I lived in New Jersey openly saying the N-word and that "the only thing Mexicans are good for is dropping off a building."
The “Music City Loop” will feature a fleet of chauffeured Teslas
Are you fucking kidding me? Aren't they building robotaxis now? Why wouldn't they use them?
What do you mean local officials are worried? Who approved this?
The Governor and state leadership. The mayor and city council are getting overruled.
the bellevue and other west nash nimbys are not gonna like this. unless it goes from 840’s entry around dickson west through toward murph.
edit: oh read it more an this is so stupid. there is no parking there by the arena worth it. so it’ll just be tourists paying big to go from airport to downtown. then they can pedal bar woo girl to their hotels?
pedal bar woo girl to their hotels?
Is this English?
nashville has these dumbass rolling bars where a driver and bartender cart folks around who pretend to be powering it by bicycle.
woo girls are just drunk chicks on a weekend before a wedding. screaming woo.
Let him build it.
Let the chauffered car thing fail.
Eminent domain the tunnel.
Stick a fucking train in it.
The boring company tunnels are a problem.
They don't have the boring normal stuff you need for an actual transit line, like service access or evacuation routes or proper ventilation. They're being disruptive by ignoring everything we've learned since the 1800s about tunnel building. It might be easier to retrofit than dig a fresh tunnel, but at that point you're limited to the route they dug, which probably isn't as useful for transporting people instead of cars.
Reinventing the underground, except shittier - again.
I’m no geologist but it seems like a (relatively) easy place to be drilling tunnels. Just looking for a quick headline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Basin
From the article,
terrain Boring will have to navigate: the tricky, sinkhole-prone limestone bedrock of middle Tennessee. The construction risks range from collapsing the ground beneath a heavily traveled state highway, to knocking out utility connections, to flooding the tunnel with groundwater.
The ability to cut the rock is not the only challenge in boring tunnels. Regardless of the type of rocks it runs through, making tunnels using a TBM is one of the slowest and most expensive ways of making a tunnel. Its best to use other techniques, unless a TBM is the only option, which it isn't for this project.
The proposed airport line runs directly beneath sr41, and the second line is under sr70s. Just like Vegas it goes directly under preexisting roads, so they don't have to deal with the administrative headache or costs of acquiring the rights to dig under private property. In cases like this it is far cheaper to use cut and cover.
In cut and cover, you build a shallow tunnel by digging a trench, putting the tunnel in the trench, then burying it. Its the most cost effective way to make urban metro tunnels in most cases, but it does require shutting down part of the road to construct. However those carbrained enough to think chauffeur driven cars are mass transit, will consider temporarily closing a few lanes on the surface during construction to be unacceptable.
Cut and Cover FTW. That's how many many cities got 10's of km of subways/metros in only a few years. They actually dug the roads up, did the work, and had it buried within 6 months or even less per km per construction front. It's way cheaper and faster than all of this deep tunnel work we keep seeing everything get all excited about these days.
Cut and Cover stations also have quick access to the streets. You don't need to spend 5 minutes riding the escalator up and down just to get to your train since it's basically 1.5 stories down the steps.
Bonus to cut and cover, when you have to do it deeper to go under existing geometry, you get a bunch of space under the road that's great for pedestrians and shopping malls.
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