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[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 16 points 3 weeks ago

I believe the term is Blue MAGA.

And the worst part is the democratic party will champion this fucker because it's fully bought and paid for.

[-] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The people who are upset with that term just enforce the reason why we have the term.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, if they didn't want people using the term, they should tried harder not to fit the description, yeah?

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully, we get AOC as the front runner. I am sick of the Democratic establishment.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Only the democratic establishment could lose to Trump TWICE!!!

[-] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 3 weeks ago

But give them a third chance. They're going to win this time

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[-] masta_chief@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Best way I've heard to describe him is, "at least he's lawful evil"

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

Such is the standards of our time, where Law, even an Evil variety, is better than the purely malicious Chaos we have. Mostly because the law is running on the fading fumes of Neutral.

Given a few decades of Newsom, we would have Ronald Reagan Deluxe.

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

As compared to what? Is he worse than Trump? I sincerely fucking doubt it.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

That's a ridiculously low bar, but it's also an important distinction.

Do I want Gavin Newsom to be the Democrat nominee for 2028? Hell no! He's revealed himself to be a shallow political opportunist and an ideological chameleon. And I think that party can do better.

But regardless, would he be an improvement over Trump? Hell yes!

Another question is: is he - a supposedly populist liberal from California - even electable on a national stage? I don't think so. But then, we live in very 'interesting' times. So who knows.

The third question is: will we have a fair enough election in 2028 (or an election at all)? That remains to be seen.

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[-] spaduf@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Settling for any centrist with a pulse is how we got Trump.

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The best pushback for this message is to post the entire interview between Newsom and Ben Shapiro and then tell me again who cares about people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrDpBwpSqSc

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

They're not the only options, stop framing it that way. That's how the shitty billionaires keep winning, by forcing that narrative

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[-] q181c@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Democrats have been playing the "well they suck, but at least they're not Trump!" game for a decade and gotten Trump two out of three times. Maybe we should aim higher.

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[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

So more of that lesser evil bullshit that's given us trump and helped shift the entire DNC to the right?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

As compared to some of the other candidates that might have run if the Democratic Primary were an actual primary and not a coronation.

The last time Democrats ran an actual primary ws 2008, when a young, generational candidate beat out the (kinda boring) establishment choice. Democrats learned their lesson to never let something encouraging like that happen again!

Gavin's gonna win the Primary, as his right as the Next One Up, and we're all gonna vote for him, because as awful as he is, he is objectively better than whoever the MAGA party will run.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

And this is the exact attitude why nothing will ever change in this country. You can't keep voting in people hellbent on maintaining the hegemony capital has over everyone and expect anything to get better for you.

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[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

If you want to know what the flat comparison should be, it’s AOC. She is, in reality, a centrist.

Now go again with the comparison.

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[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

What, this guy? Surely not.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

gavin isn't the greatest but he was just following state law

https://bsky.app/profile/parkermolloy.com/post/3merscb5bhs2i

Parker Molloy ‪@parkermolloy.com‬ rubs temples

As I've spent the better part of the day explaining why I don't think Newsom should be the Democratic nominee for president, it pains me to "defend" this, but...

The governor of California is legally obligated to proclaim each Feb 6 Reagan Day per a 2010 state law.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You’re saying that elected officials in the USA are subject to laws?

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[-] Whirlygirl9@kbin.earth 7 points 3 weeks ago

Watching how fast he threw the trans community under the bus told me everything I needed to know about him. He has the moral compass of a boiled piece of spaghetti... fuck this corpo dem.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

This guy was once married to Kimberly Gilfoyle, who was Don Jr's concubine for a few years, until fairly recently, so that tells me all I have to know about him, or her. He's a Manchurian MAGA.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

I saw him speak at Davos a while ago and I thought he was a big phony guy with very little acting skills but who is constantly acting. Another cult of personality instead of any real depth of thought.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Newsom says he’s eager to pitch a big tent for the Democratic Party, declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin as well as New York’s socialist mayor Zohran Mamdani in the fold. “I want it to be the Manchin to Mamdani party,” Newsom said in November.

Newsom can fuck right the hell off. Manchin represents everything that is wrong with the Democratic party and so, apparently, does Newsom.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin

Turn our backs and give them extra knives, huh gav?

[-] gnuthing@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I hate to admit this, but I used to listen to the Adam Corolla podcast years ago, and he had Newsom on as a guest when he was lieutenant governor of California. At the time, he claimed that the biggest issue facing Californians was being unbanked. Like payday loan companies were the worst threat.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Newsom was Lt. Governor of CA from 2011-2019. I am not Californian, and I don't know what they're dealing with outside of the seemingly-constant wildfires, and those seem pretty fucking bad, and I'm sure there are some other pretty terrible things Californians have to deal with, too.

That said, payday loan companies deserve to get spit-roasted by the Devil and the Devil's angriest pet donkey in the deepest bowels of Hell.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

You mean the serial adulterer who can't read and whose entire life has been sponsored by a Getty oil heir isn't a good candidate for president of the United States? Shocked.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yea he’s a fascist. That’s why he platforms Nazi’s and Zionists on his podcast and magically lets them persuade him that they are right. It’s also why he vetoes everything that helps the working class. It’s also why he let PG&E get away with murdering 800 Californians and he allows them to raise our rates 6 times a year while they continue to make record shareholder profits. It’s also why why he is fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposed by the California legislature as hard as he can. We need an FDR Newsom is an Israeli asset and a closeted republican who’s Gen z handlers make funny tweets.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Legitimate question, you are asked to vote for either Gavin Newsom or Donald Trump. Who do you vote for or do you abstain?

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[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Gavin Newsom has a greater chance of losing to Vance and almost any other democratic candidate.

Libs need to stop falling for the 'leftists want trump to win, see look they wont commit to voting for the Democrats' shtick. They just want to discredit the part of the base that's trying to actually save the party.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Mamdani handed the DNC a win and they fought him the whole way anyhow. Centrists as always act like there’s no alternative between centrism and conservatism even though it’s only and specifically because they systematically attack anyone who actually tries to make things truly better.

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