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[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I don't think that's the problem.

By that fall, the Maine Learning Technology Initiative had distributed 17,000 Apple laptops to seventh graders across 243 middle schools. By 2016, those numbers had multiplied to 66,000 laptops and tablets distributed to Maine students.

The introduction of the iPhone in 2007 also didn’t help.

Like, wtf is that sentence even supposed to mean.

Pretty much every single time someone does a study on "technological* impact on learning" for example handwriting and typing, they mess with the methodology or they don't have a good control group or system. And then the result is always that their traditional system is better.

They never genuinely switch methods and put effort into TEACHING the new tech and with the new tech. Obviously you can't just hand out laptop and the competence just... diffuses into the kids, because internet. That's nonsense.

Horvath noted not only dipping test scores, but also a stark correlation in scores and time spent on computers in school, such that more screen time was related to worse scores.

one guy noticing a correlation better not be "good science" at this point.

[-] Undvik@fedia.io 2 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, but that "diffusal" is literally what has always been sold, that the kids are "digital natives" that just know how to use tech.

Now us millennials need to provide tech support to both Boomers and Gen-Z

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

It has of course nothing whatsoever to do with the decades-long sustained assault on education by "conservatives". No, it's the computers.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago

New York spends $29,873 per student (the highest in the country). California spends $16,739 per student.

Utah spends $9,496 per student and has higher NAEP 2022 Grade 4 Reading average (221 vs 214 for NY), and NAEP 2022 Grade 8 Math average (282 vs 274 for NY).

Florida spends $11,681 per student and has higher NAEP 2022 Grade 4 Reading (225 vs 214 in California), and higher NAEP 2022 Grade 8 Math: (271 vs 270 in California).

The issue isn't funding. It's also not ideology, since there are clear examples of red states with better educational outcomes than blue states. All while spending much less per capita.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 4 weeks ago

Case in point: the inability to tell the difference between correlation and causation.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 4 weeks ago

I see you spend all your time on Reddit, evangelizing big AI and tech corporations... So can you give us a hint what you think the actual problem is?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 4 weeks ago

Two more completely disconnected statements that are presented as if there was something meaningful connecting them, is this intentional irony?

[-] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 1 points 4 weeks ago

If those Gen Z kids could read, they'd be very upset.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

At least he could never be fooled twice.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

You know your old Texas/Tennessee sayings well.

[-] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Anecdotally I took paper notes all through college because it allowed me to retain knowledge without studying. When I tried with an iPad as a little faux experiment on myself it didn’t have the same effect. I’d argue that this issue however isn’t from the technology itself but rather how easily you can be distracted when using it. Ultimately this is something super under studied imo and something I was interested in for a while. I’d argue however that it would be better to control for mental illness or stress effects. Considering how established social media is for us Gen Z and how damaging it’s been shown for mental health (as at least one example) I’d wonder how this would affect things. After all long term cortisol exposure is bad for memory if I recall correctly. (if anyone wants source I’ll have to go dig up an old paper I wrote).

Edit: Oh also something obvious I don’t know how much it’s been studied is the short form content and attention span effect.

[-] Libb@piefed.social 1 points 4 weeks ago

Sweden figured that out already

I wonder how long my own country, France, will take to wake up from that high tech-venerating educative system nightmare?

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