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xkcd #3214: Electric Vehicles

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Now that I've finally gotten an electric vehicle, I'm never going back to an acoustic one.

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As an EV owner, I have recieved an interesting amount of reasons why people won't buy them:

  1. The autonomy is not real (so far it's been in my case and in any case, in italy, for how people drive, the declared consumptions are all fake because people here only drives by pressing the accelerator to the bottom)
  2. What if there's a blackout in the whole city and you can't charge your car? (The whole city, for a long time? I'd be worried about other stuff, but go on...)
  3. What if all the public plugs are occupied when you want to charge and you find yourself without battery to go to "ork tomorrow? (ALL OF THEM? At the same time? And why are you waiting to charge your car until it reaches 1% charge?)
  4. What if you come back from a long trip and have a 10% battery remaining and then you recieve an emergency call and have to leave immediately and you can't because the 50-60km you have in your battery are not enough to reach your destination? (I can get to a quick charge station and get 200km in 15mins or so? The world is not ending? And if it's THAT urgent then I should be calling an ambulance anyway, because I probably need one)
  5. I don't want an automatic car! I love changing my gear! (Thank fuck I got rid of the clutch and the gears... never been happier when I drive!)
  6. Ah... but the speed, the torque of a thermic sports car... (Dude, you can't afford a sports car, what the thell are you talking about? And even if I can't either and I have a pretty average EV, you should just press the accelerator of an EV to the bottom and see for yourself)
  7. But it's all about the feeling... the sound... (oh, I get it now... you want to "feel powerful" making everyone look at you and your noise making machine... yeah, I can't compete there, and I don't even want to anyway)
  8. But the electricity is made by burning fuel! (Most of it comes from green sources and, anyway, what the hell do you think your car run on? Water? Are you not very intelligent?)
  9. But the lithium comes from child labor!! (Says while casually using their iPhone, wearing clothes made in a third world country...)

After this, they usually proceed to make absurd claims like "I don't care, I just don't trust EVs.

[-] PixTupy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

With point 2 you can now use a real life case. Last year the Iberian peninsula had a blackout that lasted more than a day. The combustion engine cars could not pump petrol because guess what: pumps need electricity.

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder how many of those would not apply to hybrid cars.

Also, for 8: Making car go by burning fuel in a big optimised plant is likely more efficient than doing it in an engine that has to fit inside the car.

[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here’s a financial argument. The initial purchase price is too high for me, and the depreciation of electric vehicles is also very high. Overall cost of ownership per distance driven is lower if I drive a small gasoline-powered car.

I really don’t want it to be that way, but that’s the reality I have to deal with. Cheaper EVs are coming, but they still aren’t in my price range.

Update: Yes they are. Needed to update my data. Used EVs aren’t expensive trash any more. Some of them are actually quite reasonable.

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[-] blauergrashalm@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

My reason for not buying an EV: it's still a fucking car. Bit less shit, but still shit.

That should be Number 1 Reason to not buy an EV!

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

3.What if all the public plugs are occupied when you want to charge and you find yourself without battery to go to "ork tomorrow?

It sounds crazy, but I'd sit and wait the five minutes, much like I've done for pumps on occasion.

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[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I will get an EV when the range/charge speed will allow me to make it 7 miles in 24 hours. And maybe if they're small enough to fit in a passenger train.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

A car powered by gasoline? It'll never take off. I mean, what will you do if it runs out of gas? Start a war in the middle east?

[-] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Also imagine the logistics! You would have to refine the oil, get it from places all over the world and distribute it to all the gas stations all over the country. With electric cars you can just tap the already existing power grid.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I seem to recall that back in the day there were electric cars before gasoline ones, and that was an argument at the time. Electricity was already becoming ubiquitous and putting up more wires was pretty easy compared to the logistics needed for gas production, transport, storage and dispensing. Gas won out due to the fact that it's energy density was so much higher compared to batteries of the time... and probably a lot of lobbying by people invested in that stuff.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah 100 years ago the argument may have actually made sense.

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[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

It’s a valid argument if you don’t live near good charging infrastructure. I have an EV in an area with ample charging. But when we went to visit my in-laws who live in a more rural area, it was a big challenge. The only chargers around were so slow that it would take 24+ hours to charge the car. And if you run out, you can’t get someone to bring a can of gas.

In an urban area, I love the reduced maintenance and not getting gas. On a road trip with kids, I don’t love killing half an hour in a grocery store with my kids amassing armloads of candy faster than I can put it back.

EVs are great, but we can’t automatically dismiss any complaint a hesitant person has.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have had some issues with my electric car in rural areas between FL and GA and I will say the charging infrastructure has gotten much better in the past year in that area. Especially since most cars can also use the Tesla chargers too if you need to.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

These are the vehicles to have in the Apocalypse. Carry your own solar panels and charge it. No need to get fuel since gasoline only stays fresh for 6 months.

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Personally I’d go with an electric bike since it needs significantly less time to charge given the same number of solar cells.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Gonna get blasted for this, given the overall sentiment here in the comments towards EVs, but EVs are going to be used to monitor people everywhere they go and have killswitches, and other shit I'd not wanna deal with.

[-] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

You say they're going to, but EVs already exist and are pretty damn popular, especially hybrids. What makes you think that EVs are going to monitor people beyond what regular license plate tracking already does? What kind of killswitch? This sounds like fearmongering.

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[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For the blackout concerns: if you have solar panels, irrelevant, actually you'd be in a better place than with an ICE car. Also, if you have a garage, a fairly powerful generator cost peanuts compared to the price of a car, and some can run on gas cilinders and gasoline. Way safer to store gas cilinders than gas.

Batery longevity: I read an article that reviewed longevity, now that there is enough data, and most cars had better longevity, by far, than expected, except for some early models, like 1st Gen leafs. These had lower longevity, attributed to lower capacity batteries that had to be recharged a lot more. Higher capacities, coupled with way better charging circuits and logic, make for way more durable batteries.

Public charging costs is a valid concern.

Long drives. Decades ago I drove with my ex and my in laws from Madrid to Brussels in one go. 2 of us taking turns.I swore to never do more than 800 Km in one go. We did it in a largish car, pretty comfortable. Yeah, no.

Recyclability: most of ICE cars are recyclable, even much of the plastics, which are used to make floor mats, soundproofing, etc. Most of the car is metal, copper and aluminum being especially valuable.

Joy of driving. Once you experience the insane torque and acceleration of EVs, even the smaller ones, you won't want a stick, unless you have a true sportscar.

I drive a 26 year old car, which I will keep until it has a catastrophic failure, love the thing. Not a major failure ever. Next will be an EV.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Plugable hybrids are a good compromise, when people remember to actually plug them in and run on electric when they don't need to travel long distances.

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