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[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

A lot of people seem to think that there are evil people and good people. And the main problem I have with that is that it lets the evil people get away with being evil. They're just evil. Can't help it. It's their nature.

But the true horror is that people are just people who decide to do good things, neutral things, bad things.

Hitler chose to do all those evil things.

And that's important. Because anyone anywhere can turn out to be an "evil person". The people who went to school with Hitler as kids probably played whatever games they all played, told each other jokes… and then he ended up choosing to do evil things.

People on your street or in your apartment complex right now have chosen to do evil things, from molesting children to killing people. They look normal, you probably say hello in passing, they might have held the door open for you at the store.

But the good news is that people can also choose to do good things. You always have that choice. You can always choose to do better. You can always choose to do what you can to make the world a better place.

I have ADHD, and I'm very vocal about it. For one, it is a big part of who I am. It has caused me so much difficulty in my life.

But after my amputation, they assigned a therapist to me for a couple of sessions to make sure I was handling it okay. I was, because I'd had to have a partial amputation behind my toes nine months before and that had not healed, so by the time we decided to amputate below the knee, I was ready for that all to be over.

So since I was doing fine^[I thought it was interesting that he said most people who didn't lose it traumatically - like I hadn't - similarly usually were doing fine like I was], we took the chance to talk about some other things - just chat, for one. But he mentioned that as he walked the halls, he had heard me apologizing for things like being verbose and scattered, mentioning my ADHD. But he said he also noticed that I went out of my way to try and cheer up peoples' days, greeting them, asking about them, joking with them, trying to make them laugh. And he said something that made me tear up then, and even now as I type this out: It's not my ADHD that caused me to act that way. I chose to try and make people happy and brighten their day. That was my choice, and I should remember that.

And believe me, with all the failures I've had in my life, to hear someone say something positive hit me hard. I'll never forget what he said.

But in the same way: You choose what you do. You can't choose what happens to you, only how you react. You choose how to treat others. You choose whether you try and make the world a better place, or a worse place.

Which is not to say that you need to sell all your stuff, donate it to charity, and beg on the streets or something stupid like that. Take care of yourself and your family. It's all about balance. But you choose how to find that balance. So choose better, where you can. Make sure you're taking care of yourself. Make sure you're taking care of others. Doesn't mean don't speak out against evil, that's part of making the world a better place.

It's something I need to constantly remind myself because someone is always wrong on the internet, but I need to treat everyone with respect and try to assume good faith. Although also not engage with trolls. It's easy to be drawn into arguments.

But anyway. I think it's just important to remember that all people are, in fact, people. And every single one of us chooses to do good things or evil things. And to me, that increases the horror of someone who constantly chooses to do horrific things.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Thanks, that's great stuff and I tegular to must of what you say.

I suspect we're both very idealistic people, which drives that outer behaviour?

I've often wondered where that came from - is hard to separate my gross Churchey upbringing in my case

[-] tio_bira@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Well, as a wise man once said: "Bullets don't discriminate, they only penetrate"

[-] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

Always remember that everyone is human. Once you designate someone as inhuman, you can ignore the fact that you have just as much capacity for evil as they do. They aren't some monstrous creature. They're someone who, by the circumstances of their birth and their childhood, became the person they are today. This doesn't absolve them one bit but it's helpful to understand if only for your own sake.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago
[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 hours ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago
[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 21 points 9 hours ago

Their violence is just a silent cry for love.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

Their parents never had time for them.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, their boots yearn only for some tenderness.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

They always have a sneer in their smile.

[-] brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago

So refreshing to see someone so sensitive and sensible <3

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

It really is the most compassionate thing to do.

Nazis need to be convinced they're wrong. I understand they represent the worst of the worst of humankind because they they think everyone not nazi must be killed, but if you start to think every nazi must be killed, there is that mirror symmetry effect that nazifies your mind. It is too simple to say kill nazis, though it is widely accepted, it cannot be a response. Teaching and explaining, and yes, sometimes re-education must replace killings. Gegen nazis though, but better is to prove them wrong.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Nah fuck that. Shoot em in the guy and make their family watch them bleed out.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago

you must convert so many nazis into kind loving people every day

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 30 points 8 hours ago

“If you don’t tolerate the intolerant you’re the same as them”.

That’s not it chief.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 1 points 1 hour ago

The Chinese built reeducation camps so they didn't have to build concentration camps.

[-] anise@quokk.au 24 points 8 hours ago

there's a time and a place for rehabilitation, and that time and place is not when they are in power

[-] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This exactly. Nazis will always exist, and there needs to be a sustainable and ethical solution to combatting that. Rehabilitation is that answer when they do not pose a serious threat. Violence is that answer when they do pose a serious threat. The dilemma is also on an individual basis.

I used to work at a houseless shelter. When I worked there, there was a neo-nazi who was accepted into our services. Whether I liked it or not, I was in a position where I needed to help this person. He was not an immediate threat, although he occasionally tested that boundary. He was an example of a neo-nazi who needed rehabilitation.

Meanwhile I was once at a Palestine protest where a neo nazi tried to join us. We told him to fuck off and he refused to leave. So he got punched in the face.

The answer to the nazi question is relative to the time, place, and other context. In a society like ours where neo-nazis hold power, violence is necessary against those that uphold it. In an anarchist society with a handful of neo-nazis who arent actively physically harming people need to be dealt with through rehab.

But also slogans, mottos, memes, and such dont really have room for nuance so... its okay to punch nazis!

[-] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Debate has never been an effective method of challenging Nazi ideology but in some cases (undeserved) compassion can be effective in moving people towards deradicalization

That being said, your first and foremost responsibility is to protecting the vulnerable. If you are in a position to help someone deradicalize in their personal life that is good, but it is morally wrong to allow people to be subjected to their ideology (both its violence and rhetoric) and inadequately protect those people, or simply challenge their ideas verbally dragging vulnerable folks through exposure to hate and dehumanization

I think its also important to remember that while deradicalization is a good thing, it is unbelievably emotionally laborious and never a guarantee, and can only ever work at an individual scale. I don't think you could just "hugs and kindness" your way out of the Nazi regime. It is not a meaningful way to solve the larger problem

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 6 hours ago

Ok but this varies heavily on case by case basis. Some 20 year old disillusioned kid whos a nazi needs to have his mind changed. Some 50 year old US senator that is also a nazi needs to be shot.

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