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submitted 1 month ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

New Xbox & AI CEO announced via Twitter ( not calling it x) the new “hybrid” console that will play Xbox and PC games.

In other words you know just a PC. Thus far it seems the system will use the exact same Xbox desktop experience as the “rog ally”.

While we all saw it coming and there isn’t much surprise. This to me says Xbox is dead as a platform.

It’s going to be expensive, it’s going to have Windows. It’s going to have co-pilot it’s going to have the same pop ups.

At least we get an Ally ROG desktop at most a Surface Gaming Desktop. Either honestly is a terrible idea. There will be most affordable options not tied to windows there will be mode powerful options at the same price. Even if you like the idea of going all in PC gaming this won’t be your best option.

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

RIP Xbox.

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[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more? I remember being excited 20 years ago for new inventions. Now its slop, slop, slop, authoritarian surveillance fascism, slop slop slop

Foss projects and indie games are about the only interesting thing now.

I'll go back to 2005 soon as someone invents a Foss time machine !

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Imagine a non-FOSS time machine

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[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Once we created standards to create everything we see today it became to expensive to invest in alternative home grown solutions. Sadly with the focus of maximizing profit over innovation most ideas just revolve around the existing infrastructure in place to do what they want. I hate it as well and everything feels very stagnant.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more?

Steam Machine?

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I still tune into TechQuickie every once in awhile and I noted how start the difference is between shows like that today and five years ago. All news is bad news anymore.

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[-] phar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Handheld emulation devices

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

Ironically, there are a couple of things in the tech world right now that I'm extremely interested in. But you would likely downvote me if I mentioned them.

[-] massacre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You got downvoted for mentioning you'd get downvoted! OK, I'll bite. Based on OP's comments, As long as it isn't in AI, surveillance or Microslop WIndows, maybe you have found something for us all?

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe they're talking about machine learning for medical advances and the like?

That has very little to do with llms. And we've been doing that for decades, its not new.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 1 month ago

As long as it isn't in AI

Afraid I can't help you, then.

It's really quite ironic, this is the sort of tech that science fiction has been dreaming of for decades. And now it can't even be mentioned in tech-oriented forums, can't even be hinted at, without mobs of negative-nellies dumping on it.

Ah well. I continue to have fun with it, downvotes can't stop that.

[-] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Dreaming of, or warning about?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

This is going to be one of those "Torment Nexus" things, I take it?

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

this is the sort of tech that science fiction has been dreaming of for decades.

No it isn't. LLM's are a fucking technological dead end and will never reach AGI's.

Quit sucking off Sam Altman and go look into actual AI research, douchebag

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

So what, who cares about downvotes on Lemmy? Even one more person finding out about some awesome tech is worth it!

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately they're just a fucking AI-bro. Not worth your time

[-] stephen01king@piefed.zip 0 points 1 month ago

When people call any AI user an AI bro, you know the logic has left the room when it comes to AI discussions.

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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

Quite true.

Well, I guess the most games-oriented thing is that at the moment I'm generating some cover art for some music I generated earlier to use as part of a tabletop roleplaying campaign I'm in. Custom art, custom music, stuff that a few years ago would have cost me thousands of dollars to commission (and therefore that I would never have dreamed of commissioning - it's just for me and a couple of friends). That's pretty awesome, IMO.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I like to see what's going on in the handheld emulator world!

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

AYN Thor is a awesome DS handheld, but they too also warned that their supplier is bumping RAM prices heavily, so they expect the price to go up too

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Steam Machine, Steam Deck, Steam Frame. Pick your level of console.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Steam EVA Unit is my pick.

[-] mthomson@forum.macaque.social 4 points 1 month ago

that's stupid. If I wanted a PC I'd have bought a PC.

[-] treesapx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but now you can buy a PC and pay an xbox subscription. Isn't this exciting, everybody?

[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think Xbox is shutting its console side to compete directly with the PC market. Head-to-head with valve. Good luck. And by that I mean eat shit Microslop

[-] Solrac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You need log into your microsoft account and give us your goverment ID to start using your Windows Computer, powered by Copilot. Would you like to subscribe to Xbox Game Pass with Copilot? Would you like CoPilot to play games for you? Copilot is very helpful, it can take screenshots of your whole screen every few seconds to help remind you of what you were doing 3 months ago. Copilot is very helpful, it can work your browser, manage your files, write your letters, use your computer for you! All you need to do is say, Hey Copilot, because Copilot is always ready to listen to you! You want to install a software? Downloading software from sites can lead to malicious spyware! Use the Windows store instead! You need to log in to your microslop account and give us your goverment ID to browse the Windows Store. Windows is so useful, it can give you weather updates, remind you of that thing you were looking to buy, things you were looking for, straight from your Start menu and task bar! You want to install Steam? I'm sorry that's not available in the Windows Store, consider Subscribing to Xbox Game pass instead! You want to run something outside of our guardrails? Don't worry, if something goes wrong, you can use Recall to see whatever it is you were doing before you did something you regret!

Ok, I can't keep this up. I cannot fathom why the fuck anyone would tolerate Windows... No game, no software, no nothing, is worth keeping literal bloated spyware that wants to drain your wallet, safety, and privacy. -- I will continue to say this;

Just Switch to Linux. If you really need a guidance, just use Linux Mint or Zorin. Explore and try other things, don't be afraid of making the wrong choice, just pick a flavor, learn it, and own your stuff back.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Saying this is the death of the platform is stupid. Worst case, it's at least better than current Xbox, which doesn't have the option to play PC games. Yeah, it's going to have all of M$'s spywhere and AI slop, but so would any MS device. I'm not buying this crap, but if you already wanted an Xbox then this is an improvement. Yeah, you're better off with a PC, especially one running Linux. This has been the case for decades, yet the consoles still sell.

[-] 64bithero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Death of the “platform” as in dedicated hardware designed purely to play games.

Going forward “Xbox” games will just be Windows games.

So yes by my definition, it’s dead as dead as Elvis …

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Isn't the whole point, since the Xbox One, that they didn't want it to just play games? We don't consider it dead just because it does more stuff. I guess you can have whatever definition you want for your personal view, but I don't really think anyone else would agree with it. It's still going to be a Microsoft controlled platform that's typically in the living room on a TV. Most people would say it's dead when they stop having a device in the living room, not when that device gets extra features.

[-] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I actually think it's a great idea. The problem is that Microslop is behind it.

[-] 64bithero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah it can be , and Steam already did it and better. But it’s still not a console experience. It’s closer but it’s not equivalent. And for what Xbox has represented this isn’t it …

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think it's "console enough" that it could still work. Current consoles are really just locked-down PCs anyways.

It'd be no different than the OtherOS functionality on first-run PS3 consoles that allowed them to boot into Linux. Perhaps simpler than that even, given that current consoles already use standard PC hardware and not the Cell architecture the PS3 ran on.

[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Good, I'm sick of playing lowest common denominator console ports. Develop for PC and let the consoles have the degraded experience, not the other way around!

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

This is the logical progression—the console wars were bad for consimers. I don't mourn Xbox.

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You know, I'm okay with this. If it makes PC gaming more accessible, and if it offers meaningful competition for the Steam Machine, it's good to have options. Sure it's Windows, but if it's just a PC running an Xbox UX, I'm sure you could change the OS to whatever else if you want.

If anything, it does make the PS6 a less appealing choice, because why pick a dedicated console when you can get an (assuming) comparably strong, comparably priced gaming PC?

[-] 64bithero@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

To me there is some value in having a true console experience. Put a disc in you know it works. Download a game and it plays as good as you can.

Even with Steam Deck you can download games that won’t work or won’t work well.

A lot of people don’t have the patience for that. And so long as consoles can stay under the PC equivalent price I think there will be value.

[-] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The issue is most games nowadays don't work on day one, and you'll probably have to download patches for it. The main selling point of plug and play for consoles is almost irrelevant with current publisher (and possible development) practices in the industry.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I do not trust that Microsoft will be doing anything other than pushing subscription-based streaming. Call me when they have a robust storefront selling games on par with Steam and hardware that allows you to play these games on or offline. Until then, imma press X to doubt.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

So, will I be able to play Halo 5 on PC?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And this is why Sony pulled games from PC. The Steam Machine was just another reason. PCs in general are now consoles too, and Sony is afraid their traditional console loses meaning.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 1 points 1 month ago

The thing that bothers me about switch to "it's just a branded PC now" is the loss of the Xbox as a low-end performance target.

That's one advantage of being a console gamer: Your games may never look the best, but new AAA games will come out and run acceptably well on your system, long after low-spec PCs are left for dead by publishers.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If I'm going to buy a PC type console, it'll be the steam machine. No idea why anyone would go for something that has windows on it at this point. I guess some will buy it because it has the Xbox name but the value of that is waning.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Companies converging towards the semi-open platform is a good thing. The locked down hardware and exclusives are not something we as customers asked for. It was something the cartel just shoved down our throats.

What bothers me is the backwards compatibility that microsoft has always just hand-waved in regards to the sunsetting of the xbox HW. A clear yes or no would be nice.

[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I, for a long time, wanted Microsoft to delete the difference between PC and Console. They are the same hardware, they can run the same software. Valve achieved this with the Steam Deck. I just wonder how Microsoft is going to fuck it up.

I’m confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Microsoft has done an amazing job of destroying good-will. And it's why I and an increasing share of people stopped using Windows (I still have to suffer with it at work though). For any gaming PC that runs Windows:

  • Why is there a pre-installed Xbox app in Windows? It doesn't help play Steam, or Epic, or GOG, or even Amazon games. I don't think it even helps with Windows Store games...

  • Why are there ads in the start menu?

  • Why are there two control panels? Why do I always have to hunt to find the old one because the new one doesn't do what is needed?

  • Why are there popup ads in the notification area?

  • Why do I need an online account, or a hidden fucking terminal, just to get the OS going?

  • Why is Copilot fucking everywhere?

  • Why does the OS hoover fuckloads of data and send it to Microsoft?

  • Why is there pre-installed bloatware?

  • No, but seriously, why are there ads?

These are all questions that are relevant when you ask about why people are pessimistic about Windows as a gaming system. But with the merge of Windows and Xbox, all of the above questions apply, but you also get to add:

  • How locked down will this merged thing be?

  • Will multiplayer require monthly payments?

  • Will it have backwards compatibility?

  • Will they find another place to shove copilot?

  • How many extra ads will there be?

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't get one and my kids didn't get one. Microslop!

[-] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Good riddance. All consoles are cancer, by their walled-garden nature.

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