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To help train AI models, Meta and other tech companies have downloaded and shared pirated books via BitTorrent from Anna's Archive and other shadow libraries. In an ongoing lawsuit, Meta now argues that uploading pirated books to strangers via BitTorrent qualifies as fair use. The company also stresses that the data helped establish U.S. global leadership in AI.

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[-] TheMadIrishman@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Uploading torrents qualifies as fair use? Excited to see where this goes. Lol

[-] jimonthony@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

They don’t mean it’s fair for you. It’s fair for corporations which need the same rights and privileges as people but obviously can’t be held to account like people because shareholders might make less money.

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Worth remembering that any group could make a company. They are work, but not particularly class locked.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago

An Uber driver is also a corporation.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

Technically even with an llc you could still be considered an individual. Don’t put it past them to utilize this for a good fucking over small business.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

Fair use to train LLMs with. These judges are really some shitty fucking people.

[-] RblScmNerfHerder@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

OFC, it's not pirating if they do it. 🙄

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The company also stresses that the data helped establish U.S. global leadership in AI.

Which is good for what again?

And is leadership in golfing better?

the underlying justification is so sickening.

"Breaking the law is OK if it's profitable"

there is no such thing as "rule of law"

[-] SayJess@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Uh…because they are gonna cash out, and bro down? The US needs to cash out the most, ‘cuz they wanna bro down like the world has never seen before. I’m citing unnamed officials who are working closely with the coordination of resources for the planned event. It’s gunna be sick.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago

Last summer, Meta scored a key victory in this case, as the court concluded that using pirated books to train its Llama LLM qualified as fair use, based on the arguments presented in this case.

This is so fucked. It's literally legal for an AI to read pirated books to learn, but humans are not allowed to do this. AIs have more rights than we do already.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

I’m so tired of lawyer snakes.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They are saying that seeding is inherently part of torrenting, not that it's fair use. I mean, at least they weren't a leech.

My stance is fuck the copyright companies and fuck Meta for everything they do except in this case, because seedings a good thing and so is Anna's archive.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

Seeding is NOT needed for downloading.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

To be fair, I did say inherently part of. It would have been rude of them not to seed.

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Those bastards stole all our data! But hey, at least they seeded it. Would have been pretty darn rude, otherwise.

[-] discocactus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

How does Elsevier feel about that???

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I want copyright to go extinct. It has no place in a proper civilization.

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