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The worst and most stupid bit is this:

Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are "suffering from this, frankly, more than we are."

He claimed this was because they had "focused on a lot of green energy scams and they're hurting a lot more than we are."

Vance continued:"As much as we've got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they're feeling it far worse than we did because we've taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

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[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 1 week ago

Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It's not like they can pump that oil from their ground.

I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

This is what I've been saying as well. For ages now. However I was listening to pre election political debate with parties on TV and everybody just kept talking about oil, oil and oil. Nobody even mentioned alternatives or anything else at all. And we even have a prime minister coming straight from electric energy distributor. So I'm not putting too much fate here.

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[-] DarthPub@retrofed.com 90 points 1 week ago
[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

What's worse is that people actually believe him.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

he did reaped the popes soul.

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[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago

Why are they allies when spoken to and treated like this?

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To him they are not allies his allies are on the Bored of Peace.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Believe it or not there was a time before Trump.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

And some day not too long from now, there will be a time after Trump. He has an insane amount of health conditions, and he's the least popular president in living memory right now.

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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago

This is a great question that I'm kinda raging about.

I'm Australian. Our fuel prices have increased by almost 50%. Inflation for this year is projected to be 5%.

This is a ridiculous, unnecessary war, serving the interests of a despot we have had no business in supporting.

I imagine that our Prime Minister would say, we were USA allies for 100 years before Trump, and will be for 100 years after he's gone. It's true that our alliance runs deep. The current AUKUS agreement concerns building submarines in partnership over several decades.

However, I'm peeved that our Prime Minister is tip toeing around avoiding saying anything mean about the pedo in chief. Trump has thrown us all under the bus for his own reasons, and absolutely deserves to be called out.

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For anyone who don’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy

[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Didn’t know WaaS was a thing. This timeline is just asS.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 6 points 1 week ago

Oil prices are pretty global. If you look at the prices for European oil (Brent crude) and US oil (West Texas Intermediate), then they are $14 apart. Which is not nothing, but WTI is still up by 63% from pre-war. That is still going to hurt the US economy, a lot.

Also, in the US the oil price windfall is privatized, while the oil price pain is socialized. So the US will still feel almost the full pain.

[-] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Let's not forget all the Venezuelan oil that the execs said was to expensive to drill, higher price might just make it lucrative.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

We have tons of untapped oil fields easier to drill in the US that oil companies are sitting on, and we already get something like 1/3 of Venezuelan oil as is

But we still need the oil from the middle east, we mix our heavier oil with theirs in the refining process. We're draining our reserves to keep the price low domestically, that and the statements that the strait will be reopened imminently is keeping the price relatively low... For now. Our economy is all speculation after all.

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[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago

He missed his calling. He should be living in a trailer park with a yard full of weeds, broken toys and dog shit, a police record and a restraining order from his ex-wife.

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[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:

He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

It doesn't even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.

In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?

And if JD refers to Germany's over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn't very green anyhow): That's the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

If a maga Republican is saying something, it's usually the exact opposite of what they are saying that is true. Look it up, this is not a joke.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Okay, I admit that I’m terrible at human relationships.

But even I know that if you ask someone for help and then gloat over them they’re going to be less likely to help you.

How are these guys this bad at this and still in global office?

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

How? Look at this generation of voters. Thats how!

They have the most access to information compared to any period of human history, and yet are demonstratably less factually informed and less humanly resourceful than ever before.

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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

He so perfectly embodies the fascist ethos. You aren’t suffering, as long as others are suffering more.

I can’t tell if he’s incredibly un-American, or very very American.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

Our infrastructure isn't completely built around cars. We have proper public transportation, walking and cycling infrastructure. The best in the world actually. I don't need gas or oil to cycle. And my electricity is made by windmills and solar panels.

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[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

"We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don't you come help us fix it (at our direction of course)."

Gee, can't guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d....

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

lol I’d love to hear them explain this green scam stuff

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

I've heard more than enough of it. They just repeat the same lies over and over

[-] Maragato@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.

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[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀

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[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Me strong. You weak. Me happy.

[-] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago
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[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wait, so the person who aligned himself with an obese orange painted child rapist and narcissistic pathological liar doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

I think I'm immediately going to go outside and smash up my solar panels, my battery system, and my heatpump. No, scratch that, I'll drive my electric car over everything.
Then I'll go and import a massive Ford F1CUNT mobile and roll moles!!

Or not. It's a tricky one...

I mean, yesterday we ran our entire house for free, charged the car for free, and exported a few quid of electricity back in to the grid...but, yes, oil and gas is definitely better for me and the climate.
Yes, I know not everyone can't do what we've done but the quicker everyone can get away from fossil fuels the better.

So FUCK OFF, COUCH FUCKING PAEDO ENABLER!
I hope you americans will hold this prick to account once the kiddie fiddling nonce finally dies.

[-] DisgruntledPelican@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Allies? I though we made it clear that the us has no allies in this war. Nobody want ww3 only to distract the brainwashed population of an awful pedophile from a list that he will do anything to hide it. At this point they are alone with the mess, deal with it.

[-] eddanja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Maybe someone smarter than me can chime in... But isn't petrol a finite resource? Shouldn't we be planning our infrastructure for when it eventually runs dry?

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

A complicated question, but in short, yes, it's finite. The amount is actually far more than we could ever use possibly, but the real limitation is accessibility. As we extract and use up the easier to get oil, it costs more to get the harder to get. At some point we won't be able to get to oil that's there, and what we can get will cost so much that usage will be limited.

In some cases we've still extracted from places that had a low or negative ROI, such as tar sands, because at the time investment was persuaded that it would pay off. Then there's the changes that make hard to get places suddenly an opportunity, as the arctic areas might soon be.

We should be changing not because of supply, but because of what the use of oil does. But we haven't changed in the right direction after decades of saying that.

[-] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

UK - petrol prices are rising.

Electricity prices are falling because most of our energy is from renewables and british/european gas.

Sucks for me because my car is a petrol one. My wife's is electric and it costs about £4 for her to charge up overnight and that gets her about 250-280 miles of range (£0.01 per mile).

My car costs £55 to fill up for 400 miles per range (£0.13 per mile).

Although my car is cheaper

Edit - changed currency symbol....realise 0.01p isnt the same as 1p....

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[-] ptu@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

So how bad is it? We had 1.7€/l before this and like 1.9€/l now -> 11,7% rise

[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 6 points 1 week ago

It's not good but it's bearable. What's happening in the USA is definitely worse than what's happening here, in every respect.

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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have questions.

What steps did they take? They didn't take any steps.

Who's hurting more? The gas prices in US has increased by 50%. I don't see that anywhere else. This is partially because we already pay a lot more in fixed taxes, so the gas prices alone doesn't cause the same kind of spikes. Of course we still pay more for it as usual, but the current increase of about 10% doesn't hurt us as much as it hurts the Americans.

What green energy scams is he talking about? Green energy works. I wouldn't call it a stable price, as it fluctuates like the wind, but on average I'm paying less for charging my car than I did last year, and I'm expecting the price to drop. It was always cheaper than gas per milage, still is and certainly will be even more so in the future. Big scam huh.

Putin tool applauds common Putin tactic of enshittifying your enemies instead of just being better than them. Enemies, because neoconfederates aren't really able to have allies, just subjects.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Take that…allies

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago

"allies" are more likely to have renewable power sources than the US...and functional, widespread public transport systems

[-] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

TIL US imports 97% of crude oil that Canada produces which is 60% of all US crude oil imports.

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[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 week ago

I Voted for Trump to ~~have LOWER Prices!~~ ~~have PEACE!~~ Suffer!

-Republicans!

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.

This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn't, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word "ally" means? Do any of them know?

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Because punching down is the American ethos. On a macro and a micro level.

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

As much as we've got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they're feeling it far worse than we did because we've taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

Like restocking the US Federal Oil reserve right? Like you promised you would? Before the war you started right?

Oh, you didn't? Why Vance?

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[-] jve@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The Suffering. 👏Is. 👏 The point. 👏 👏

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male...

Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are 'real men'. And 'real men' don't have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.

Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?

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